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#143693 - 12/30/09 09:10 AM Re: Leadership in the Common Era [Re: Shezatwepwawet]
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Originally Posted By: Shezatwepwawet
If I may add a little more, becoming Shemsu-ankh isn't an automatic either if you simply want to do it. It's a privilege, and just because someone is SA, doesn't mean they are somehow more special than any other member of the House.


Zat is right. Not more special than any other.
However there is a different level of responsibility, but responsibility does not equal "specialness" or better... just different.

Actually it's somewhat rougher because certain expectations are enacted - you are expected to look after your brothers and sisters in the faith, you are expected to be an upstanding member in the faith,...ect.

These are expectations the community has of the Ankified ones as well as the expectations the Gods have.

That's not to say the SA's are perfect all the time - we're all human and mistakes will be made (that's inevitable).

One thing worth pointing out, and this has been mentioned before:

When it comes to the priesthood, SA's and S's... it's important to note that we're ALL shemsu... just shemsu with different responsibilities.
(kind of like pointing out that in the priesthood, we're ALL w'abu... just wa'bu with different responsibilities and the "titles" (if you will) denote the responsibility differences)

They (titles or responsibilities) don't make anyone "better" than anyone else. Just doing different work.
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#143738 - 12/30/09 04:45 PM Re: Leadership in the Common Era [Re: Qaitsenu]
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Thanks guys, that helps.

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#174650 - 09/20/10 07:48 AM Re: Leadership in the Common Era [Re: Corvina]
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Thankyou, Devo, for starting this very interesting discussion. I have to admit, I was a little "put off" at first by the idea of the Kingly Ka being carried by one specicific individual, but as I learn more I think that the Nisut would not be able to fulfill Her responsibilities if She did not. She obviously cares deeply for Her spiritual community, and works very hard on everyone's behalf. It is very unlikely that I would be able to meet Her, but if I could I would count it a privilege. Everyone@s answers to your original question have been really helpful to me. Thankyou smile.
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#212122 - 03/02/12 01:32 PM Re: Leadership in the Common Era [Re: Sedjemes]
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Originally Posted By: Sedjemes
Hotep Devo

I can only answer as a Kemetic Orthodox. I came to the House of Netjer, with as full of an understanding as I could have, after completing the beginners/prospective members/interested people course offered here, and after reading a lot of scholarly texts on egyptian religion and history.

Not every Kemetic may think a Nisut is important. That is fine. Here, the Nisut is our spiritual teacher, our leader, and our King. She does not set down "commandments" or "rules" for us or even tells us how or when we should pray and how our lives should be before we can even pray; but in matters of state ritual She is the Chief and Only Priest.

Hope this helps smile

Senebty
Sedjemes


Just out of curiousity you said:

Quote:
state ritual


Which "state" were you refering to? A physical location? A "state" of mind? Egypt?

Thanks smile
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#212131 - 03/02/12 02:16 PM Re: Leadership in the Common Era [Re: MERITSEKHMET]
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Em hotep

In the Kemetic Orthodox context (which is how I replied) the "state" here refers to our faith, Kemetic Orthodoxy, as a whole. We are a people of faith (in case it was not apparent to guests, these forums are a discussion adjunct of the House of Netjer, our Kemetic Orthodox temple, and not merely a generic Kemetic discussion forum).

As Kemetic Orthodox we consider Rev. Tamara Siuda as our Nisut, who performs rituals on behalf of the nation of faith, that is, all Kemetic Orthodox around the world. The priests of this faith do likewise, just as in antiquity. At the same time and in addition and complementary too, each and every single individual Kemetic Orthodox has personal, private devotionals, prayers, rites, and ways to worship and honor the gods.

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#212151 - 03/02/12 03:30 PM Re: Leadership in the Common Era [Re: Senedjem]
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I have talked to him, I do not beleieve he is a prankster, I believe he stands for what he says
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