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Title: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Ta_Imu_Aset on July 15, 2010, 03:44:13 pm
Ok, inspired by another thread about my scary Mommy...

Which Netjer, if any, make you think twice, freak you out, scare you, give you chills, make you wanna cry or run away...etc...?

And why.  
: o
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Zef on July 15, 2010, 03:47:42 pm
Aset. I'm not exactly sure why, but it has to do with her ruthlessness, as I've said. If she'd had shown up in my RPD, I might have cried. She scares me -that- much. It's weird.
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Ta_Imu_Aset on July 15, 2010, 04:11:57 pm
No clues at all as to why? Thoughts?
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Devo on July 15, 2010, 04:19:24 pm
I get deities that I don't really want to work with, but none that make me scared. Does that count?

-Devo
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Ta_Imu_Aset on July 15, 2010, 04:39:52 pm
SURE. And why do you not...?
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Bennu on July 15, 2010, 04:48:15 pm
Scary for me is Sekhmet. I yet have to determine why. Menekh brought up an excellent point a few weeks ago about our fears of certain deities saying more about our relationship with ourselves than our relationship with the Divine. To me, Sekhmet is always Sekhmet the Destroyer. Sekhmet the Avenger of Ra. Sekhmet, to me, is utterly ruthless. Maybe She scares me because in some respects, I can be like Her in certain situations.

Hm. This warrants more thought.
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Devo on July 15, 2010, 04:59:39 pm
Ironically, the main deity that I don't want to work with is Heru. For some reason, he just annoys me... like he's all squeaky clean.. like a golden child or something. I can't really place my finger on it.

-Devo
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: TahekerutAset on July 15, 2010, 05:04:31 pm
Quote from: Bennu
Sekhmet is always Sekhmet the Destroyer. Sekhmet the Avenger of Ra. Sekhmet, to me, is utterly ruthless. Maybe She scares me because in some respects, I can be like Her in certain situations.  



Sekhmet is also a healer and a goddess of surgeons and physicians and appropriate action.  

Maybe that will help.  
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: TahekerutAset on July 15, 2010, 05:06:15 pm
All the gods can be scary though.  I don't have any that I'm particularly afraid of.  Years ago, I used to be afraid of Set and Sekhmet, but that was more because I listened to people who told me that they were dangerous to approach.  

I have gods that I don't click with or resonate with.  



Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on July 15, 2010, 05:11:19 pm
Not anymore, really. I used to be scared of Aset, but now it's more like a cool discomfort I get around Her.

Edit: And I really don't know why. I honour Her on Aset Luminous and around the Wesir Mysteries, and I have nothing special against Her, but I always feel out-of-place and uncomfortable with Her.

Then again, as per my UPG, Mom wanted to dual Parent with Aset, and, since Aset Doesn't Share, got told pretty, ahem, firmly, to sod off. Mom's called Aset by some not-so-flattering Titles to me, and maybe I'm just absorbing that :P
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Zef on July 15, 2010, 05:12:03 pm
My issues with Aset probably stem from my inner issues with my femininity, or something. Maybe the thought of a ruthless, strong queenly woman freaks me out or something.

Or maybe the whole 'making her son king' thing just squicks me. xD
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Menemaset on July 15, 2010, 05:52:22 pm
Em hotep, all!

I agree with Tahekerut about all of the Gods being scary. I think that each and every One of Them certainly has the potential to scare your britches off. ;)

When I specifically sit here and try to think of a Name that scares me, I'd say Sobek. I don't know Sobek that well, but I've always imagined that it'd be a nasty thing to get on His bad side. I certainly don't see Him as cuddly. :D More like. . .vast? He's vast? I don't know if that makes sense. Oh, and ancient! I definitely get a "beginning of time" type of feel, like the beautiful descriptive writing by C.S. Lewis when Aslan is singing Narnia into existence at the end of The Magician's Nephew. Maybe that part isn't scary, but it's somewhat intimidating.
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on July 15, 2010, 06:06:51 pm
Menem, having two pre-creation Gods in my lineup, I know exactly what you mean by that last bit :D
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Maretemheqat on July 15, 2010, 06:15:47 pm
 
Quote from: Bennu
Scary for me is Sekhmet. I yet have to determine why. Menekh brought up an excellent point a few weeks ago about our fears of certain deities saying more about our relationship with ourselves than our relationship with the Divine. To me, Sekhmet is always Sekhmet the Destroyer. Sekhmet the Avenger of Ra. Sekhmet, to me, is utterly ruthless. Maybe She scares me because in some respects, I can be like Her in certain situations.

Hm. This warrants more thought.


I used to think this way, until I started to get to know the other side of Sekhmet. I used the Hethert route to get to know the Lioness, and while it still isn't dealing with Sekhmet directly, it still gave me enough to work with. Now she's not nearly as scary as she was before.

Granted, she still commands my utmost attention, and I certianly wouldn't turn my back to her. I describe it more as a healthy respect now.

~Maret
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Phoenix_Falls on July 15, 2010, 07:46:26 pm
Set scares me and I'm not too sure why. I was actually pretty ignorant of the whole concept of Set = Evil that some/many people have until a few years ago, so I know it's not outside influence. I've never really spoken or prayed to Him, but I've seen Him a few times and it's always been accompanied by a really unsettling feeling followed by fear and cold sweat.

The funny part is, is that after He's gone (and if He's around for a while, I've never seen Him dead on with my physical eyes for more than a minute), I want Him to come back, but when He's there, it's not that I want Him/the experience to go away exactly, but that's the only way I can describe it.

This happens rarely, it's not like He just hangs out or anything, but it seems very random to me, like there's no trigger for it. I even saw Him a few nights ago when I was trying to sleep. He thought/thinks it's hilarious that I'm scared. I get the feeling that He won't tell me why He keeps popping up unless I ask...which...I'm usually too scared to do. Figures!
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: NiankhSekhmet on July 15, 2010, 09:02:38 pm
Quote from: Bennu
To me, Sekhmet is always Sekhmet the Destroyer. Sekhmet the Avenger of Ra. Sekhmet, to me, is utterly ruthless. Maybe She scares me because in some respects, I can be like Her in certain situations.  


I find it very interesting that you note that about yourself. Getting to know what is appropriate action is definitely a part of Sekhmet's "process" - for lack of a better term.  

One only need see Sekhmet around little children - both Her reaction to them and their reaction to Her to see that the Destroyer aspect of Sekhmet, while important and valid and definitely to be respected, there is always and ever-present the motherly nature of HetHert.  Nothing in the world is more fierce than a mother protecting her young. It literally has brought tears to my eyes to see Sekhmet with little ones. It is absolutely heartwarming.  

An aside, whenever a child is rootnamed, no matter Who is the Name in festival for that child, Sekhmet has impressed upon me the necessity to stand up for every one of those children. That to me underscores that while justifiably commanding of respect and sometimes fear - Sekhmet is still the Mother underneath it all.
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Kefetmisenu on July 15, 2010, 10:24:52 pm
This is my personal beliefs, so YMMV.

I think because I have, for the most part, some of the Netjeru people find scariest, none of Them scare me. Even when I was told-back when I was a lot younger, mind you- that Set was a god of evil, I still thought He was pretty cool and really wasn't terrified of Him.

Now, He and Father can certainly intimidate me, but part of that has more to do with the enviroment I was raised in (Predominantly female with the only male, my father, being almost not there and never showing any real emotion to us. I often felt he didn't even so much as cared that I existed). Even Ptah-Sokar-Wesir, Who is very much a WOOOSH-there-went-my-brain Netjeru, doesn't frighten me.

Seeing as there's also a large portion here with Sekhmet-related issues, I offer this advice: Sekhmet is Hethert. Hethert is a goddess of love, of mothers, of happiness. Sekhmet, in a sense, shares those. She is the feirce protectress side to every mother and woman who cares and loves. You only need to fear Her, in my opinion, if you are trying to intentionally hurt who She loves.
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Tanebet on July 16, 2010, 03:04:36 am
Quote from: Devo
Ironically, the main deity that I don't want to work with is Heru. For some reason, he just annoys me... like he's all squeaky clean.. like a golden child or something. I can't really place my finger on it.

-Devo


I suppose you are talking about Heru-Sa-Aset?
He surely is NOT squeaky clean. In the Contendings there are a few stories which speak otherwise.
There is the episode where He suggests a boat race with boats made of stone and he used a boat which is made of wood and only looks like stone. Or when He chopped off Aset's head because She helped Set
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Taqaisenu on July 16, 2010, 07:57:40 am
My Mother: Hethert.

Her mere presence will strip a person raw; since She comes from inside, there's no shielding, no blocking, no defense. We are all vulnerable.

She will rip your still-beating heart clean out of your chest and lay it on the dresser top in front of you.  She will watch with kind eyes as you wail and sob, as the greatest heartache you have ever experienced gets forcibly pushed through from the inside out.  You've no defense, no recourse, there are no thoughts, no rationalizing.  Your only option is to feel.  And feel, you do.  Every single ounce of it.

And then... just as suddenly as it began... it ends.  Your heart, lighter, purer, is put back into place; the gaping hole in your chest filled with Her intense Love.  The pain is all but forgotten, save for the massive pile of used tissues on the floor, your clogged sinuses, puffy eyes, tear-stained cheeks, and budding headache.

There is no hiding from Hethert.  When She decides you need to feel, you WILL be feeling.  Pure, intense, overwhelming emotion.

And that is scary.
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Tahai on July 16, 2010, 08:05:54 am
My Mother, Bast.  She came to me once in a vision, with just a bit of Her predatoryness* displayed, and it terrified me.  I can't even imagine how incapacitated with fear I would be if She unleashed Her warrior side on me.  

She only ever did it once, and I think it was to make sure I understood She is so much more than playful house-kitty, and not to ever think of putting her in that role.  She is the Tearrer, the Shredder, and Her claws and teeth will destroy any who are against Ma'at.

*not a word, I know :D
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Tahai on July 16, 2010, 08:10:18 am
Taqai, I agree about Hethert!

Menem...Vast and Primordial...Yep, that's how I get Sobek, too.
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Tai'awepwawet on July 16, 2010, 09:50:04 am
Ugh, yes Taqai. Now that you mention it, that does make me want Hethert, but also skirt around her like a feral cat around a bowl of food.

When she was in Saq she was one of the ones that convinced me Saq was real, because there was just nothing that could stop that. She holds you and you break, you cry, you're gone. When I didn't have anything to say to her but lurked anyway, she brought me in to tell me how much she loved me and to hug me tight, and everything just pours out in a wave of emotion and tears.

Afterwards, you do feel better, somehow. You look at her and there is *no* way to doubt her love. It's not possible, she blasts all doubt clean out of your mind like a solar flare. There's just a weird sensation that everything else has been hollowed out, burned away by some cleansing fire.


It is scary, really. Perfect, and beautiful, but scary. She is scary. That kind of love is terirfying.
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Ta_Imu_Aset on July 16, 2010, 09:53:11 am
I've thought about this a bit. For me, it's not exactly *scared* but more very wary, distant and hesitant....I tend to circle around any and all Kings. All the warrioress Names, I totally GET, thus they don't "scare" me, mothers of any stripe- are right up my alley, me being the feminist and mother that I am. Even if any of Them did something I didn't understand (not hard to do I'm sure), I would have this instinctual trust that They Knew what was going on when I didn't. Chaotic, primal Names, intimidating absolutely, but quite familiar to me. I *get* berserker rage, protective ruthlessness, unstopable fury in the face of harm to children, families etc, and even that quality of timelessness that is the very foundation of motherhood itself. Service to any of These is something that I can do and do well. Aset, Sekhmet, Bast, Tawaret, Nit-mothers and destroyers all-are as comfortable to me as breathing, though I may be intimidated at times because They can bring all that to a level I simply cannot. Even the male Names more associated with this sort of thing (like chaos or primalness), are fairly comfortable to me.

To me, what is "scary" is the order, the rule of Law, and *especially* the Divine Kingship roles that are on any kind of masculine principle-kinda have me saying.....dude...

It's just so foreign to me. I can't wrap my head or heart around this MO, though I might try. Amun, Atum, Ra, Wesir, and even Djehuty...these are Names that I just don't....understand, though I have tried, well, a little. We fear what we don't know...and I've had problems with authority (and particularly MALE authority) since I was a frakin toddler. I've been tasked with finding the balance between these 2 diametrically opposite principles, and it has me a little....squeed...

Aset of course, knows all this and I'm pretty sure it's why I've been told to learn about Her Amenti aspect, She's made it clear that I *am* to get to know Her husband....this is going to be a struggle for me, and She almost seems to be amused with my confusion at the same that She is being utterly tender and soft about this particular thing....for a change....lol...

So there's my scary Netjeru....

: o
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Mezaenaset on July 16, 2010, 10:08:08 am
NebetHet!

She has been the only Name to come visit me in the flesh, so to speak.  I was absolutely terrified.  I can't explain the horror I felt that night (a few days after my RPD) to see Death Herself walk through my bedroom door.  She scared the you-know-what out of me then left as quickly as She came.

Usually I find NebetHet to be very comforting but that night... yikes!  
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Khusisokar on July 17, 2010, 11:56:06 pm
Khonsu.

Yes...the placid & gentle child god.  Healer, child, radiant, lunar.

And yet, right there staring out of that calm child's face is also "Khonsu who lives on hearts" and "Khonsu who slew the lords, who strangles them for the King, and extracts for him what is in their bodies"...Khonsu the exorcist/demon-slayer.

Slaying, strangling, extracting child gods.

Yup...He gives me the heebie-jeebies alrighty.
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Munefmontu on July 18, 2010, 02:11:41 am
Taweret....

You know how they say never go near a bear cub? because when the mama finds out...she doesn't even care if your not hurting her cubs your getting hurt.....bad

Its sort of a love/hate thing. She being associated with child-birth and children is someone I pray to for all the children in my life...and at the same time.. I resent her...well not anymore...but I did at one point because I can't have kids...and this lead to some guilt..which makes me scared that she will find out that I felt that way once and be mad... real angry momma bear mad.

Also... having come to terms with my non-parent status... and knowing now that it is exactly what I want. The whole pregnancy/child/mother thing is something I used to dream about ....and now the idea is a nightmare. I love kids and I have more kids in my life than I know what to do with....but the idea of having my own scares me...alot
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Nehwen on July 18, 2010, 04:57:41 pm
Set has scared me from the start, although I had a breakthrough of sorts on that yesterday.  When I think of Set, I think of chaos and butt-kicking change, and I have never handled either one very well.

Senebty,
Nehwen
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: NedjheretHethert on July 18, 2010, 08:55:57 pm
The entire concept of change is frequently terrifying to most people, so I wouldn't feel too bad about that!

Personally, I find Aset and Bes to be scary.  As far as Bes ... I'm not really sure I can pinpoint the reason for the fear.  I just can't narrow it down.  Most fertility Names cause me to feel something other than on a sure footing, to be honest.  Very strange, since I'm still wanting another little one.  And Aset?  I think mostly it's a fear of reaching out for your best.  And then being your best.  Because then, in my mind, all I can do after that is fall short and disappoint someone.  Or SomeOne ...

Kelly
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Zematsenu on July 18, 2010, 11:08:37 pm
Em hotep!
I've never really found Set scary, after all, he's the Name I feel closest to, and to me he's more of a fatherly character.(Yeah that means seeing the not-so-fluffy side of him sometimes.)

Aset however, terrifies me. Possibly because I'm horribly attached to Set, that in itself may be fuel to make her not like me too much. I've never tried to contact her, although I have had some interaction with Nebt Het, and she's enigmatic, but still very nice. :P
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: LionofAnpu on July 19, 2010, 09:01:08 am
I've found that Ammut seems the scariest of the Netjeru. And it's no disrespect toward her. I remember discussing a tattoo that I was planning to get which revolved around the weighing of the heart, when I got a distinct impression of Her face. I got the impression that She is really....REALLY hungry. I don't think I'm terrified of Her, but She definitely makes me want to tread lightly. I feel like a snack when I think about those eyes...*shivers slightly*
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: NiankhSekhmet on July 19, 2010, 09:11:51 am
Ammit is not really considered a Name of Netjer as She was not so much worshipped.  I think Ammit is rather a Netjeri or a elemental spirit that inhabits the Duat, for her function is totally contained there and no other place within the Kemetic iconography.

Senebty!
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Devo on July 19, 2010, 09:17:24 am
Quote from: Tanebet


I suppose you are talking about Heru-Sa-Aset?
He surely is NOT squeaky clean. In the Contendings there are a few stories which speak otherwise.
There is the episode where He suggests a boat race with boats made of stone and he used a boat which is made of wood and only looks like stone. Or when He chopped off Aset's head because She helped Set


I honestly don't make a whole lot of differentiation btwn the two- Heru-sa-Aset and Heru-Wer. I haven't had the ability to work with either very well to know them very deeply, and when I try, it just.doesn't.work. Ever.

I know he's not squeaky clean- by any means, yet it seems as though he is treated as such. Like I said, he's the golden child- that can screw up, and be a jerk, and yet still gets the girl at the end. He's what I can't stand in people- those that appear to be nice, and yet... aren't most days.

Course, my own pre-conceived notions could be what keeps me from having a relationship with him, but I've had him in my altar since I knew much of anything about AE or it's mythologies other than "I like it" lol, and he has never really made the move to talk to me. So I don't know.

-Devo
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Devo on July 19, 2010, 09:21:25 am
Quote from: Ara

Aset of course, knows all this and I'm pretty sure it's why I've been told to learn about Her Amenti aspect, She's made it clear that I *am* to get to know Her husband....


I'm lucky- my s.o. works with Asar, and He (Asar) is the one who sorta brought me to Kemetic whatnot in general. Honestly, though, whenever I am working Asar, or with my s.o. in regards to Asar, I get the need to make him/them laugh- they both strike me as being too uptight, and needing to let go a bit lol.

Sorry, that was a bit off topic...

-Devo
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Tai'awepwawet on July 19, 2010, 09:44:45 am
Quote from: Devo
I know he's not squeaky clean- by any means, yet it seems as though he is treated as such. Like I said, he's the golden child- that can screw up, and be a jerk, and yet still gets the girl at the end. He's what I can't stand in people- those that appear to be nice, and yet... aren't most days.


That's been one of my problems with Heru-Wer. People seem to really think he's awesome, and he *really* gets a lot of attention in the House, but frankly I find him to be a bit of a [censored] >.>
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Ta_Imu_Aset on July 19, 2010, 09:48:34 am
Haaa Taia....
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Devo on July 19, 2010, 10:03:46 am
Quote from: Taiawepwawet
Quote from: Devo
I know he's not squeaky clean- by any means, yet it seems as though he is treated as such. Like I said, he's the golden child- that can screw up, and be a jerk, and yet still gets the girl at the end. He's what I can't stand in people- those that appear to be nice, and yet... aren't most days.


That's been one of my problems with Heru-Wer. People seem to really think he's awesome, and he *really* gets a lot of attention in the House, but frankly I find him to be a bit of a [censored] >.>


XD At least I'm not the only one! lol

-Devo
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: LionofAnpu on July 19, 2010, 10:11:47 am
Hmm...well I suppose that could answer some things. I'd probably have to ask Dad what He thinks as well. It's hard to find much information on Her, which to me is rather sad. I must say, though, She is still pretty intimidating.
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on July 19, 2010, 11:28:48 am
Quote from: Taiawepwawet

That's been one of my problems with Heru-Wer. People seem to really think he's awesome, and he *really* gets a lot of attention in the House, but frankly I find him to be a bit of a [censored] >.>


To me, these things aren't mutually exclusive - most of the greatest guys I know are dicks to some extent.
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Kefetmisenu on July 19, 2010, 12:08:28 pm
Quote from: Taiawepwawet
Quote from: Devo
I know he's not squeaky clean- by any means, yet it seems as though he is treated as such. Like I said, he's the golden child- that can screw up, and be a jerk, and yet still gets the girl at the end. He's what I can't stand in people- those that appear to be nice, and yet... aren't most days.


That's been one of my problems with Heru-Wer. People seem to really think he's awesome, and he *really* gets a lot of attention in the House, but frankly I find him to be a bit of a [censored] >.>


Part of me wants to bust out laughing at this, yet at the same time I feel the need to put a little input.

Yes, Heru-wer can be scary, and sometimes considered downright mean, but I've always seen His actions as doing what He thinks is best. If He does something what one might consider mean or a [censored] move towards me, I know it's because He wants me to try harder, and knows I can do better. He has a lot of love in His intentions, so in a sense He's a lot like His twin Set. I will admit He's very intimidating, but at the same time He's never gone out of His way to scare the crap out of me. In fact I've felt He's actually tried not to terrify me just because of my predesposition towards male figures in my life.

I must also be getting a different side of Heru-sa-Aset. I get Him as hyper and a lot like a 20-something in His behavior. Then again it might be His way of seperating Himself from my Father :P

This is all UPG, by the way. My brothers and sisters through Him may have differing views
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Devo on July 19, 2010, 12:31:21 pm
Quote from: Kefetmisenu

Yes, Heru-wer can be scary, and sometimes considered downright mean, but I've always seen His actions as doing what He thinks is best. If He does something what one might consider mean or a [censored] move towards me, I know it's because He wants me to try harder, and knows I can do better. He has a lot of love in His intentions, so in a sense He's a lot like His twin Set. I will admit He's very intimidating, but at the same time He's never gone out of His way to scare the crap out of me. In fact I've felt He's actually tried not to terrify me just because of my predesposition towards male figures in my life.


I don't view him as scary, he just seems to feel very meh towards me, and he kinda gets under my skin... for whatever reason. As I've said, I'd tried (minimally) to work with him, to no avail. I'm not sure what it means, but we just don't seem to jive.

-Devo
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: kathleen on July 19, 2010, 04:34:46 pm
Set has intimidated me for a long time now, but just in recent weeks i think i may be beginning to understand Him and appreciate His influence more.  :)  i am even thinking about getting a statue for Him now; before i was always afraid it would bring too much chaos into my life!  LOL

Serqet is another Name i'm not too comfortable with, however, and i'd like to understand exactly why because i have often felt that She might be wanting to tell or teach me something.  i suspect it has a lot to do with me not liking arachnids much!  LOL
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: ASH on July 22, 2010, 11:01:43 pm
Do  not be intimidated by Set.  Understand and appreciate His direct approach and strength.  If you speak to Set dont be a beat 'around the bush' kinda person. Be "politely direct" (if that makes any sense)  He truly is great!
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Bennu on July 23, 2010, 12:20:13 pm
I'm with ASH with regards to Set. I'll just add: if you have a request to ask of Him, make sure you are very clear about what you want, and most importantly, about why you want it. In my own UPG, because He is essentially unpredictable and self-serving, He's the kind of Name who will throw in something unexpected in the bargain. With Set, there's always an ulterior motive. So read the fine print, so to speak, and be ready to get what you wish for - and then some.  :/

This is my own UPG, of course.  :grin:
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Ta_Imu_Aset on July 23, 2010, 12:50:46 pm
for some reason Bennu, your post makes me think of Faust...read the fine print...lol...
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Setkheniitw on July 23, 2010, 09:12:04 pm
Aset.  I'm starting to get over it, though.
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: HedebBast on July 24, 2010, 03:43:18 am
Quote from: Bennu
I'm with ASH with regards to Set. I'll just add: if you have a request to ask of Him, make sure you are very clear about what you want, and most importantly, about why you want it. In my own UPG, because He is essentially unpredictable and self-serving, He's the kind of Name who will throw in something unexpected in the bargain. With Set, there's always an ulterior motive. So read the fine print, so to speak, and be ready to get what you wish for - and then some.  :/

This is my own UPG, of course.  :grin:


That is very much experience with Him too :P.  Also, in my experience, how you would like it to happen.
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: TahekerutAset on July 24, 2010, 08:22:25 am
Quote from: Bennu
With Set, there's always an ulterior motive.


Isn't this true with all the gods?  :-)  
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Bennu on July 24, 2010, 12:02:06 pm
Quote from: TahekerutAset
Quote from: Bennu
With Set, there's always an ulterior motive.


Isn't this true with all the gods?  :-)  

I can't speak for anyone but myself and my own UPG, of course, but so far, only Set consistently gives me that feeling of "Oh yeah? So what's in it for me?" kind of self-centeredness.  None of the other Names I've interacted with to date have come across to me as being outright self-serving and willing to help only if they have something to gain by doing so (or by throwing in the bargain something unexpected that pops up later and must be dealt with).

Again, I stress that this is just my own experience. I'm sure there must be other Names of Netjer who can be quite motivated by self-interest in their dealings with we mortals. But so far, to me, only Set seems to make no bone about the fact that His primary concern is always, always Himself.
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Kehawiitu on July 24, 2010, 09:18:35 pm
*hides under the bed with a flashlight*  Aset used to (and to a lesser extent still does) scare the heck out of me.  She is so big, multi-faceted, and powerful.  Ruthless, too.  I was afraid She might squish me.  She did nothing to ease my fear, but instead affirmed that She quite easily could squish me but hasn't yet decided if and/or when She will.

I find myself remembering that all of the Netjeru can be scary.  They all have the potential to do some very amazing and terrible things, even the ones that are usually seen as gentle.  If anything in the world is worth fearing, it is a God.  Physical things can hurt you, but a God could do far more.
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: TahekerutAset on July 24, 2010, 10:27:39 pm
Quote from: Bennu
Quote from: TahekerutAset
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Again, I stress that this is just my own experience. I'm sure there must be other Names of Netjer who can be quite motivated by self-interest in their dealings with we mortals. But so far, to me, only Set seems to make no bone about the fact that His primary concern is always, always Himself.


I just meant the ulterior motive part.  I was trying to be funny.  I guess it didn't translate right over the internet.  The gods can have many reasons for doing what they do and some we may even know, but I bet there are reasons that we don't know.  

Aset can be self serving too and Set sounds like it from what you've said (and others).  
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Niheri on July 25, 2010, 11:06:16 am
Hello, everyone :).

I'm very new to this site, having found Kemetic Orthodoxy completetly by accident while trying to find out why the Set animal has been appearing in my dreams over the past couple of months. He is not scary, but he sort of glares at me with a "come on, get on with it," sort of look. Trouble is, I'm not sure what "it" is...
Anubis has always been around for me - when I was 10, we went on a school trip to a museum in London to see the Tutankhamun exhibition, and I saw a statuette of Anubis and remember thinking, "Oh, that's who you are!".

I don't think Set is scary as such - he doesn't suffer fools gladly, which is maybe why he's bugging me a bit at the moment - just wish I knew what "it" is...

I'm looking forward to getting to know people a little - at 47 youwould have thought I had found my spiritual path already...Not for lack of trying. but maybe, just maybe this is Home...:).
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Sekhenetnut on July 25, 2010, 11:20:40 am
Quote from: Topetl

I find myself remembering that all of the Netjeru can be scary.  They all have the potential to do some very amazing and terrible things, even the ones that are usually seen as gentle.  If anything in the world is worth fearing, it is a God.  Physical things can hurt you, but a God could do far more.  

I stayed away from the Netjeru for a long time because they felt so huge, ancient and frightening. I loved Egypt and I admired the Names but there was no way I was going to worhip Them; They were just too imposing.
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Bennu on July 25, 2010, 11:52:32 am
Quote from: Jet
Hello, everyone :).

I'm looking forward to getting to know people a little - at 47 youwould have thought I had found my spiritual path already...Not for lack of trying. but maybe, just maybe this is Home...:).

Age has nothing to do with it, Jet. I'm 41 and still happily searching.  :)  That's what it's all about. And maybe that's what your "it" is all about.  :whistle:
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Tai'awepwawet on July 25, 2010, 01:31:02 pm
Quote from: Jet
I'm looking forward to getting to know people a little - at 47 youwould have thought I had found my spiritual path already...Not for lack of trying. but maybe, just maybe this is Home...:).


Hai :3 And no, I think spirituality is a lifelong thing.


I agree that all Gods can probably be scary. Wepwawet has scared me sometimes. Intense, staring right through, overwhelming sense of *power* and strength and readiness to use it.
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: HehiAset on July 25, 2010, 01:48:19 pm
HI Jet and welcome to our Boards! Enjoy!

I wouldn't worry about your vast age, i began with this faith - albiet elsewhere some 13-14 years ago - via several Teachers the Netjer put in my Path.

I ended up in the House and feel it is Home, despite being 74.

And by listening more than I talk I find I learn from The Nisut, The Priesthood, The Congregation and more often than not Beginners!  Learning and marveling about the Netjer is something you can have for life is you so wish!It is exciting, challenging, confusing, scary at times and also highly personal.

Again welcome


Hehi
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Linda on July 25, 2010, 02:01:47 pm
Don't worry, i'm 50 in August and I've only just realised this is my path! :blush: :grin:
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Bennu on July 25, 2010, 03:14:13 pm
Quote from: TahekerutAset
Quote from: Bennu
Quote from: TahekerutAset
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Again, I stress that this is just my own experience. I'm sure there must be other Names of Netjer who can be quite motivated by self-interest in their dealings with we mortals. But so far, to me, only Set seems to make no bone about the fact that His primary concern is always, always Himself.


I just meant the ulterior motive part.  I was trying to be funny.  I guess it didn't translate right over the internet.

No problem.  :) Getting lost in translation online is bound to happen from time to time.
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Devo on July 26, 2010, 09:46:03 am
Quote from: Bennu

I can't speak for anyone but myself and my own UPG, of course, but so far, only Set consistently gives me that feeling of "Oh yeah? So what's in it for me?" kind of self-centeredness.  None of the other Names I've interacted with to date have come across to me as being outright self-serving and willing to help only if they have something to gain by doing so (or by throwing in the bargain something unexpected that pops up later and must be dealt with).

Again, I stress that this is just my own experience. I'm sure there must be other Names of Netjer who can be quite motivated by self-interest in their dealings with we mortals. But so far, to me, only Set seems to make no bone about the fact that His primary concern is always, always Himself.


I honestly think it has to do with the person. I've been working with Set for a while now, and for whatever reason, he'd pretty upfront with me. Of course, I'm totally bizaar in how I respond to his stuff.

Him: "So, I've got some huge hurtles coming towards you that are gonna totally kick your arse."
Me: "Really?! XD I can't wait!!"

I'm weird, I know, in that I love the challenges set before me. I guess his self-serving motives don't really cross my mind or bother me. Really, we're quite well suited together.

-Devo
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Bennu on July 26, 2010, 01:12:42 pm
Set's tendency towards self-centeredness, unpredictability and looking out primarily for Himself doesn't phase me either, probably because in these respects, He and I are quite alike.  ;) It's just something that I believe should be kept in mind when dealing with Set, is all.
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Devo on July 26, 2010, 01:14:17 pm
That's true and makes sense.

-Devo
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Niheri on July 26, 2010, 01:34:15 pm
Thankyou, everyone! It's nice to feel welcomed :).

I can't do the "quote" thing, my computer skills not being that advanced, (despite my age!), but whoever said that this may be the "it" could well be right. If I can only get the machine to send my application in, I could be joining in properly. soon...

Set seems to have disappeared, or backed off, at the moment. I feel a bit lost without him!

Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Bennu on July 26, 2010, 07:13:09 pm
Quote from: Jet
Thankyou, everyone! It's nice to feel welcomed :).

I can't do the "quote" thing, my computer skills not being that advanced, (despite my age!), but whoever said that this may be the "it" could well be right. If I can only get the machine to send my application in, I could be joining in properly. soon...

Set seems to have disappeared, or backed off, at the moment. I feel a bit lost without him!

I know what you mean about feeling a bit unsettled without Set around. Since I've decided to accept the offer to join the Beginner's class, I've sensed all the Names of Netjer quietly recede and take a sabbatical on me - which is actually a good thing, since we're encouraged when we first join to try to detach ourselves a bit from the Names we've grown attached to. It's not necessarily easy, but I know that Set, Ma'ahes and the other Names are still there, even if it feels like They're not. I trust that They all know what's best for me, and right now that's being open to Netjer without my nose stuck to particular Netjeru.  :)

About the "quote" feature, all you have to do is click on the word "Quote." The next screen will show the post you're quoting. You then just move your cursor so that it blinks on the next line immediately below the last closing square bracket [] and start typing. Hope that helps.  :)

Oh, and the "it" thing... that was me.  :whistle:  :grin:
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Senneferet on August 16, 2010, 07:52:05 am
For me it's not so much fear but intimidation. I am intimidated by Sekhmet. I feel like She doesn't want me hanging round much, like She's one of the cool older kids in school and I'm a geeky little first year. She's got much more important things to do than worry about me.

Strangely, Set is one of the ones I get on with the best. He is always loving, if a little cheeky, when He appears to me in my dreams. There is no fear, just overwhelming awe.
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: ubenetsenu on August 16, 2010, 12:48:09 pm
Quote from: Senneferet
For me it's not so much fear but intimidation. I am intimidated by Sekhmet. I feel like She doesn't want me hanging round much, like She's one of the cool older kids in school and I'm a geeky little first year. She's got much more important things to do than worry about me.


ha!  that's how i felt at first.  look out. ;)
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Sehedjef on August 16, 2010, 01:00:47 pm
Quote from: Senneferet
For me it's not so much fear but intimidation. I am intimidated by Sekhmet. I feel like She doesn't want me hanging round much, like She's one of the cool older kids in school and I'm a geeky little first year. She's got much more important things to do than worry about me.



Hotep Senneferet!  *henu*

I have gotten the unspecified annoyance from Sekhmet in the past as well.  I've found it has to do with inappropriate behavior (in my case keeping folks at arms legnth emotionally out of fear of being hurt).  Once you are able to face whatever it is She's not happy about and begin to deal with it, you'll find being in Her presence much more enjoyable.  ^_^


Senebty,
Imti
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Squisho101 on August 17, 2010, 07:29:55 am
Hurr... I don't think that I'm scared of any, so much. I am apprehensive toward ... well, all of them, as a general sort of default behaviour. I suppose it's a ... defense / respect reaction. I respect them as deities and so feel apprehensive about making a blunder, and so I become defensive and keep my distance and then ... well-hey. Apprehension to get anything started in case they get cranky over my avoiding them in the first place. >__>
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: NiankhSekhmet on August 18, 2010, 07:38:09 am
Em hotep Senneferet!

Quote from: Senneferet
For me it's not so much fear but intimidation. I am intimidated by Sekhmet. I feel like She doesn't want me hanging round much, like She's one of the cool older kids in school and I'm a geeky little first year. She's got much more important things to do than worry about me.


Well, that's part of the Sekhmet mystique. If you have enough chutzpah to look Her bravado in the face and not run in the other direction, then it pays off infinite rewards. Sekhmet is not a warm, fluffy extra-large kitty Goddess. A good, healthy dose of respect is always a wise thing to have with Sekhmet - or any of the Other Names of Netjer.

However, there are few Other of the Names that can match Sekhmet's tenacity and strength and upholding Ma'at itself.  If you call on Her for protection, you will get it - and you may get having to face things that you don't necessarily want to, but need to. She is short, sweet and very much to the point. Some see that trait as "impatience". For Sekhmet, I think it's rather much more about being efficient and effective and of course, appropriate in what you say and do.

As for age, that really is all relative. I'm 48. We have all ages here - one of our newest priests is your age in reverse (74). You come to your spirituality when you come to it. It doesn't make any bit of difference in the scheme of things when that is in chonological years.

Senebty!
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Ta_Imu_Aset on August 18, 2010, 07:49:11 am
Quote from: NiankhSekhmet

However, there are few Other of the Names that can match Sekhmet's tenacity and strength and if you call on Her for protection, you will get it -

Senebty!


I would have to agree with this. Much as I don't really have much contact with Sekhmet, there have been times when I've asked for protection, and I kind of instinctually, by default, automatically prayed to Her. I have always felt Her when I have done that. She really is pretty awesome and I'm SURE that I will be getting to know Her better in time. Both Her and Bast are already in my shrine, and I've felt that They are always there if I need Them.
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Senneferet on August 18, 2010, 05:13:15 pm
I think the impatience with Them is that They can see the end result, They know we are capable of doing x, y or z and They just want us to get on with it and grow. Perhaps it's a little frustration at our 'human-ness' as well.

I get on very well with Set and have never feared Him. He knows I love and respect Him and seems to enjoy it. I don't get the feeling of Him being selfish but why wouldn't the gods want a little in return? They're not here to serve us. Also, when the dust has settled, so to speak, I always realise that most things are not for His benefit but for mine. Set and many others have steep learning curves

Edit: plus I am really flaky with offerings. I owe Wepwawet-Yinepu TONS for the things He has done for me but I never get round to it. Set, on the other hand, would want payment up front or suffer the consequences....He's such a loan shark lol!
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Niheri on August 25, 2010, 04:02:31 pm
Quote from: Bennu
Quote from: Jet
Thankyou, everyone! It's nice to feel welcomed :).

I can't do the "quote" thing, my computer skills not being that advanced, (despite my age!), but whoever said that this may be the "it" could well be right. If I can only get the machine to send my application in, I could be joining in properly. soon...

Set seems to have disappeared, or backed off, at the moment. I feel a bit lost without him!

I know what you mean about feeling a bit unsettled without Set around. Since I've decided to accept the offer to join the Beginner's class, I've sensed all the Names of Netjer quietly recede and take a sabbatical on me - which is actually a good thing, since we're encouraged when we first join to try to detach ourselves a bit from the Names we've grown attached to. It's not necessarily easy, but I know that Set, Ma'ahes and the other Names are still there, even if it feels like They're not. I trust that They all know what's best for me, and right now that's being open to Netjer without my nose stuck to particular Netjeru.  :)
Thankyou, Bennu - that was helpful advice. I know clinging to the Names I've got so far maybe not a good thing and will try to keep an open mind.
(And, if this works!, you just taught me how to do the "qoute" thing :).

About the "quote" feature, all you have to do is click on the word "Quote." The next screen will show the post you're quoting. You then just move your cursor so that it blinks on the next line immediately below the last closing square bracket [] and start typing. Hope that helps.  :)

Oh, and the "it" thing... that was me.  :whistle:  :grin:
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Niheri on August 25, 2010, 04:07:41 pm
Well, I tried with the quote thingy, and all it's done is get mine and Bennu's bits mixed up - Sorry. (If it's any consolation, Bennu, I had a cat called Phoenix, who I still miss...
I agree totally with the "clean slate" attitude, when I do the Beginner's course. After all, it's unlikely I'll lose a beloved, and I may gain a surprising parent, who knows@
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Denderah on September 03, 2010, 08:47:35 pm
For me, it's Set.  He just freaks me the hell out.  I feel like Set makes me confront some things in my life that I'd rather not face or deal with.  Like being raped (sorry if this is too personal).  The other deities will be supportive and comforting, but Set demands that I deal with the anger that I always try to bury.

He's like the maddening itch of poison ivy before the soothing relief of calamine lotion.  

Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Khesretitui on September 03, 2010, 08:52:25 pm
He's the doctor with the bitter pill that will save your life, or, at times, he's the one who'll chop off a gangrenous limb to save the rest of the body. Such is my experience, anyhow.
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Denderah on September 03, 2010, 09:04:05 pm

I can't do the "quote" thing, my computer skills not being that advanced, (despite my age!), but whoever said that this may be the "it" could well be right. If I can only get the machine to send my application in, I could be joining in properly. soon...

Jet, does this mean you had trouble sending in your application?  I'm asking because my computer won't let me send the application in and I desperately want to take the beginner's course, too!
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Denderah on September 03, 2010, 09:15:01 pm
Quote from: Khesretitui
He's the doctor with the bitter pill that will save your life, or, at times, he's the one who'll chop off a gangrenous limb to save the rest of the body. Such is my experience, anyhow.


Yes. This is it exactly.
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Wenemaset on September 04, 2010, 12:33:28 pm
Em hotep Y'all!

Great discussion. It brings a number of things to mind for
me. I am an Aset-kid and, yes, Mother can be scary, but She
has taught me that instilling fear is just another useful
form of heka.

Aset is similar to Set in that She doesn't show any tolerance
for "whiners." She is like the strict and formal aunt that
tells you to sit up straight and take your medicine. She shows
Her love by insisting that we learn how to make our own way.

That being said, Aset screamed at me for years to change my
ways. Somehow I continued to justify my addiction to nicotine.
Finally, one night in shrine I sensed a different Presence.
It was the King of the Gods, Neb Amun. He bluntly gave me the
choice right then to live or die. Now that scared the you know what
out of me.

(I have been quit since then.  :cool:)

Senebty,

Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Qaitsenu on September 04, 2010, 09:19:39 pm
Quote from: Taqaisenu
My Mother: Hethert.

Her mere presence will strip a person raw; since She comes from inside, there's no shielding, no blocking, no defense. We are all vulnerable.

She will rip your still-beating heart clean out of your chest and lay it on the dresser top in front of you.  She will watch with kind eyes as you wail and sob, as the greatest heartache you have ever experienced gets forcibly pushed through from the inside out.  You've no defense, no recourse, there are no thoughts, no rationalizing.  Your only option is to feel.  And feel, you do.  Every single ounce of it.

And then... just as suddenly as it began... it ends.  Your heart, lighter, purer, is put back into place; the gaping hole in your chest filled with Her intense Love.  The pain is all but forgotten, save for the massive pile of used tissues on the floor, your clogged sinuses, puffy eyes, tear-stained cheeks, and budding headache.

There is no hiding from Hethert.  When She decides you need to feel, you WILL be feeling.  Pure, intense, overwhelming emotion.

And that is scary.


QFT - but I have to insert "Bast" in for Hethert there... as She works in quite the same way.

Well..  minus the "then it's all over... all but forgotten" ... I find with Mum, She WANTS you to remember so you don't do it again.  ;)
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: sadlotus on September 05, 2010, 09:19:51 pm
maybe its because i am just a newb but i dont feel scared of any of them.but then i guess i havent had the experiences you have all had
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Sedjemes on September 05, 2010, 09:24:24 pm
Hotep :)

When we talk about "scary" we don't necessarily mean fear as of spooky creatures---we relate intimately to our gods, since we believe fervently that they care for us, but we also have a very healthy respect for THem as far more than mere buddies. They are after all divine beings. Who even if They stand at our shoulder like warm companions, can still deal us a humbling blow if we need.
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Niheri on September 06, 2010, 05:14:24 am
Hi, Denderah :).

It did take me a few tries to send off my application, but I think it eventually worked. I'm no good with technology, but I did discover that I was trying to send it to somewhere that didn't exist...I'mstill not entirely sure it worked, but the machine records it as a message sent, so, hopefully it did.

Is there a Name connected with computers? If so, I would probably find them quite scary! I think most of the Names can be quite strict when necessary.

Good luckwith your application, Denderah.
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Following_Sekhmet on September 06, 2010, 05:29:28 am
I might not of had the divination done to determine who my parents and beloved are (I hope I got that right) but I'm a firm believer that Sekhmet has chosen me. I don't know about my spiritual father (I'm hoping that he comes to me soon) but one of the things that got me was that Sekhmet had this commanding presence and she didn't pull any punches about me serving her.

I consider Sekhmet to be the Netjeru that would always have my back and not allow others to push me around or give me the strength to assert myself and not be pushed around. I know that she was there and kept me from going off the deep end when I was being bullied. Also back when I was a witch in Wicca Silver Ravenwolf had a book that had all these different gods and goddess.

When I saw Sekhmet I was amazed at how much power and responsibility that she had. I read up more on her and that's when I discovered that she was the Eye of Ra, making sure that the order of things happened. When I read that she almost destroyed human creation due to her blood lust it reminded me of all the times that I would lose control and do things (not illegal things mind you) and something inside me would always tell me to calm down.

I know it was her and I would calm down. Sekhmet can be scary at times but she can also provide you with great strength. I don't think that Netjeru are suppose to scare us but I believe their supposed to give us strength and tell us that we're not alone.
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Following_Sekhmet on September 06, 2010, 05:33:58 am
I'm going to send my application by mail. The whole e-mail thing didn't work and I don't know how to do outlook yet. I just hope it doesn't affect my lessons.
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Denderah on September 07, 2010, 07:44:03 pm
Quote from: 3467
I'm going to send my application by mail. The whole e-mail thing didn't work and I don't know how to do outlook yet. I just hope it doesn't affect my lessons.


I have to do it this way too.  Rev. Marie gave me a way to get around the whole outlook thing, but it didn't work for me.  I just don't have the computer skills, so snail-mail it is.
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Denderah on September 07, 2010, 07:47:19 pm
Quote from: Jet
Hi, Denderah :).

It did take me a few tries to send off my application, but I think it eventually worked. I'm no good with technology, but I did discover that I was trying to send it to somewhere that didn't exist...I'mstill not entirely sure it worked, but the machine records it as a message sent, so, hopefully it did.

Is there a Name connected with computers? If so, I would probably find them quite scary! I think most of the Names can be quite strict when necessary.

Good luckwith your application, Denderah.



Thank you, Jet.  I wish you good luck too.  Unfortunately, my computer refuses to cooperate and I'll be sending in the application by snail-mail     .
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Washtiemyinepu on September 12, 2010, 08:44:30 pm
Aset scares me, because I'm not rich enough to buy anything good enough for Her. (Not paying my rent, turning to crime, etc. would NOT be in accordance with Ma'at.)

Set doesn't so much scare me as make me glad He's on our side.
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: TahekerutAset on September 13, 2010, 12:09:08 am
Quote from: Washtiemyinepu
Aset scares me, because I'm not rich enough to buy anything good enough for Her. (Not paying my rent, turning to crime, etc. would NOT be in accordance with Ma'at.)

Set doesn't so much scare me as make me glad He's on our side.


In my opinion, the quality of offering matters more than the expense.  Just because something is inexpensive does not make it poor quality and vice versa.  Thrift stores, second hand stores, and online stores are excellent places to get good deals on things.  

In my opinion, Aset will accept any sincere offering.  Yes, she likes nice things, but nice things don't always have to be expensive.  
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Ta_Imu_Aset on September 13, 2010, 08:25:37 am
I second that, She certainly doesn't require your rent money to buy Her something, quality is what counts. Also making something for Her would be appropriate, She would appreciate the effort and energy you put into it.

A drawing you put alot of time and effort into would go over as well as a nice, good quality chocolate bar...heh heh....
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Niheri on October 08, 2010, 05:34:01 am
I actually almost physically "shy away" from Aset. She just seems really disapproving...

I thought I would be scared of Sobek, (crocodiles, Aaarrggh), but he's turned up during Senut a couple of times, and he seems surprisingly nice :). (Silly me...).
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Osaii on November 18, 2010, 06:15:21 pm
Quote from: Senneferet
For me it's not so much fear but intimidation. I am intimidated by Sekhmet. I feel like She doesn't want me hanging round much, like She's one of the cool older kids in school and I'm a geeky little first year. She's got much more important things to do than worry about me.

Strangely, Set is one of the ones I get on with the best. He is always loving, if a little cheeky, when He appears to me in my dreams. There is no fear, just overwhelming awe.


I feel much the same way. I'm quite fond of Set and what He represents, and I think there is precedent for those that see a need to fear him. He is a strong God, and one of the Names that has shown no qualms in resorting to violence when He feels it necessary. Yet He is not violence without purpose, but violence driven to a specific purpose that allows life to continue on and grow stronger. For this reason, I've never really felt any fear of Him, though I possess tremendous respect for Him. Granted, if I were to have a solid interaction with Him I might very well be given reason to change my mind about this:)

Sekhment is the one I fear more than Set. Not fear really, but apprehension. I admire Her and feel some connection with Her, or some desire for a connection with Her, but She seems the sort that is not easily calmed when driven to anger or violence. Not to say that She is more or less powerful than Set (such comparisons are irrelevent anyways), but despite the chaos of His nature, I "understand " his violent side (or would like to think I do at any rate). Sekhmet's violent side has too much of an element of the unknown to me at this point. Makes me just as leery of Her as I am fond of Her.
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Vega on November 29, 2010, 01:24:37 pm
Anpu, Aset, and Djehuty.

I am the awkward and socially clueless autistic child.  Interaction with most of them feels horrid, like I'm this idiotic little filthy peasant with no manners or understanding of what is going on, in front of a formal, well-mannered, and highly intelligent queen/king.
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Ta_Imu_Aset on November 30, 2010, 07:53:13 am
Vega,

I totally understand your feelings there, Aset especially (I have no relationship with the other 2 you mentioned) can be awe-inspiring. However, it's good to keep in mind that She IS a queen who gave birth in a swamp, totally shapeshifts into whatever She wants to, and is a Netjeret of magic. She is a queen FOR the people, and beautiful and remote as She can be, She also has Her moments of gettin' "down and dirty" as it were.

She does demand alot from people, but She is one for whom you *want* to be better, and that's something....
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Sedjemes on November 30, 2010, 07:57:48 am
Hotep :)

My sister Timu has described Aset quite well there. I will add just one thing for clarification:

Aset, at least in my experience, already thinks Her children (in fact, I would add that She also thinks that every child of Netjer whether those are children/devotees of Bast, Set, Wesir, etc etc) are awesome and smart and eminently capable of doing great stuff. What She expects is that *we* figure out we are truly awesome. She already knows it. She isn't waiting for us to improve, except, and only, in the sense that we open our eyes and see ourselves as She does.

One can ask oneself "why me?"  And the answer generally always tends to be something that boils down to "why not you?"
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Ta_Imu_Aset on December 01, 2010, 09:06:32 am
Quote from: Jet
I actually almost physically "shy away" from Aset. She just seems really disapproving...


Ahhh....scary Mommy...lol. Why would you say She seems disapproving Jet?
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: AlluriaSong on December 06, 2012, 09:44:01 pm
I may be just a guest right now, but I've never really felt afraid of any of the Netjer. They have the potential to be absolutely terrifying, but I can also sense Their great love for us. Sometimes, They'll push us around a little bit, but it's more of a constructive thing in my eyes. They want us to be at our best, because we are like Them. They can see our potential, and want to help us achieve it.

Although I do feel hugely respectful towards all of them, some of them I really respect too much to really bother with my trivial concerns. Mainly Osiris and Ra. Osiris is just so awesomely cool, and I don't want to annoy Him with my issues, and Ra... I just can't really wrap my head around talking to Him. I greet Him at the sunrise, and I thank Him for nice weather, but just hanging out? No way...

And just to throw in my opinion on Heru, I usually see Him as 20-something, like a college bro without being a jerk. He could easily fit into any fraternity, captain the football team or whatever, but He's never, ever treated me like most jocks treat girls. He may tease me a little bit, but He's always been exceedingly gentle and loving, and has been known to lend me a little strength and courage when things get awful for me (which they frequently do. I guess He just knows I need a little extra encouragement.)

(All UPG, of course. ^^)
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: SolarPowered on December 13, 2012, 03:10:53 pm
Before I get started let me say that I haven't been having a very good month so far so if I'm offensive I'm sorry.

I don't particularly fear any of the Netjeru but I have a very adversarial relationship with Set. Now I'm not saying that he is evil, he serves a necessary role but there must be balance with what he does, Anyone with the ability to both spiritually and literally look beyond themselves (IMO something that Set himself and many of his children lack, sorry)should be able to see that the world is out of balance and Set's trademarks are running rampant.Look at the world. Chaos, decay and might makes right rule and anyone who can't or won't play the game get crushed. Selfishness and Ruthlessness are quietly exalted While putting others before yourself will get you a public pat on the head and a private knife in the back. Until balance is restored I will fight tooth and nail against his influence.

I don't know, maybe I have just had an incredibly unlucky run at life, always in the wrong place and the wrong time but I doubt it and I'm not the only one. They say that Set puts challenges in your path to make you grow stronger, if so he has put the entire world as we know it in mine and even if it will make me stronger I will not thank him for it because I've seen far too many people hurt, particularly the weak and innocent, by his "challenges".

I know that this stance won't make me popular and I don't care. A little Set is necessary but IMO he has gotten out of control for some reason beyond my full understanding and until he is brought to heel or some "great revelation" is made to me, that is were I stand.

I intentionally avoided the word Evil because I know there are more Malign things out there than him and he does some good in his own way. Look at it this way if you saw a person that stood for all the things Set does and acts them out you would think they were a pretty horrible person. Because Set is a God he may be entitled to do so but I'm not going to think any better of him. Am I right in all of this? probably not. But this is what life has dealt me so far and I'm only a human trying to better myself and the world around me and if I am being unjust I will one day have to answer to Wesir for it and I accept that.
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Tif on December 13, 2012, 11:16:11 pm
Solar_powered, I get where you're coming from. I used to think of Set in that capacity as well.

UPG here, but I tend to think of Set as the one at the brink of chaos. That is, he's the one who can align with chaos or order at his whim. Such an ability makes him dangerous, for sure. It also gives him great power because he knows the "language" of chaos. He knows its many names.

After working with Set for a couple of months, I began to see that the chaos that tries to utterly destroy--the chaos behind the most vicious wars, rapacious disease, etc--is not in the realm of Setian chaos. Setian chaos is that chaos which destroys everything that is not strong enough to stand on its own.

Does it hurt? Yes. I could tell you numerous stories of Set's work in my life, for I too have had the world put before me. It's why I kept him at arm's length for almost two years. Once I understood what he was doing and how I could prevent it from happening again, I started on the path to becoming a better, stronger person.

From personal experience, Set's power is most destructive when kept at arm's length. YMMV, of course.

Also, I don't think the names can stop us from being crappy to each other. :\\ If someone is a child or dedicant of Set, and they run rampant in his name, that's not necessarily a reflection of Set himself, but rather human understanding of him and his power.

I'm not saying this to put down your feelings or your beliefs. I get what you're saying and the position is certainly justifiable in many ways.

Back to the original topic, Bast scares me sometimes. She's so vast, embodying incredible destructive power and motherly gentleness in one being.
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Blissi on December 15, 2012, 04:11:22 pm
Tif I really liked what you said here  
Quote
Setian chaos is that chaos which destroys everything that is not strong enough to stand on its own


Its a very simple but highly insightful way of seeing Set and his  charachteristics as such imo. It also made me sit back and think, well, what in my life is not strong enough on its own and would crumble at Sets touch? hmm
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Sarytsenuwi on December 15, 2012, 04:47:51 pm
Quote from: Solar_powered
Anyone with the ability to both spiritually and literally look beyond themselves (IMO something that Set himself and many of his children lack, sorry)


Hey there, Daughter of Set here, doing a bit of a brief thread hijack, hope y'all don't mind. Solar_powered, I guess I just wanted to offer to chat with you at some point, if you'd be up for it, see if I can't offer an alternate perspective on what my Father's children can be like. It sounds like you've been burned pretty badly by someone who possibly acted in Set's name, and if you're willing, I'd like to try to make up for that. As someone who feels that Set's strength helps her to volunteer in challenging situations, and break down the walls that prevent change for the better in the world (while fully acknowledging the darkness and cruel acts in His mythos) I just... can't help but wince that your experience -- not with the god, but with His followers -- has been a bad one.

Back to your regularly scheduled, gods that make you go eep! (I'd sort of half-heartedly answer Aset myself, but the reasons why have pretty well been covered above. Aka: She's powerful and brilliant as all get out and I often feel tiny and imperfect before Her. ^_^; )
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: SolarPowered on December 16, 2012, 02:22:39 am
Quote from: Blissi
Tif I really liked what you said here  
Quote
Setian chaos is that chaos which destroys everything that is not strong enough to stand on its own


Its a very simple but highly insightful way of seeing Set and his  charachteristics as such imo. It also made me sit back and think, well, what in my life is not strong enough on its own and would crumble at Sets touch? hmm

See, I know that at times everyone stands on their own and needs the strength to do so but we are social creatures as a whole. We build communities, rely on each other and while some forms of weakness need to be destroyed most need to be worked on and help from others is often effective and freely given. People with Physical weaknesses (sickness or injury), Mental weaknesses (excluding many forms of addiction and a few others), children and other innocents need to be destroyed? I think not.  
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Bestekeni on December 16, 2012, 08:22:58 am
Addiction is an illness like any other -- a physical change in the brain, in fact. Please do not marinalIze the members of our community who are recovering addicts.
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Tif on December 16, 2012, 10:58:28 am
Quote from: Solar_powered

People with Physical weaknesses (sickness or injury), Mental weaknesses (excluding many forms of addiction and a few others), children and other innocents need to be destroyed? I think not.  


The people with those things don't need to be destroyed. Any inner weakness they might have does. Our world is crazy. We need more people who are strong in their hearts.

From personal experience, it's inner weakness that Set targets. Sometimes it's to bring your attention to a particular situation, or other times it's to give you a clean slate to rebuild. It can be hard to see what to do about fixing your life when you have so much old stuff around you.

For example, Setian energies came in and basically trashed what was left of the relationship between my mother and her boyfriend. The break up was so bad I had to call the police. At that point, the relationship between my mother and I was non-existent. But we had a clean slate and, over time, our relationship has improved and we can now bear to be in the same room with each other.

I didn't become a Kemetic until a year after the fact, but I recognized Setian energies as soon as I learned about Set himself. I absolutely hated him for a long time, until I realized that (a) I had my mother again, (b) I was less depressed (ex-boyfriend was an abusive jerk), and (c) I was able to explore religions and found Bast. Bast is one of the best things that's happened to me in the past two years.

And all because Setian chaos barreled into my life, knocked down the things that weren't working, and left a space to rebuild.

Set's more destructive energies aren't final. His chaos is not a chaos of the Uncreated type. A person can come back. Changed, most likely, with a few scars and a touch of bitterness. Yet also better, stronger. I don't know about anybody else here, but once I began to understand Set's ways, I learned to chill out, to be patient, and to work with what I've got even if it's not much.

Is it always fair? Well, no. Honestly, though, do you expect the world to be fair? Can anyone expect the world to be gentle, kind? We can expect it, I guess. Reality shows us a different story. Personally, Set helped me see reality. That inspired some bitterness and misanthropy, to be sure. It also inspired a determination to not be a part of the problem.

Anyhoo, long post is long, so I'll wrap it up here.
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Tif on December 16, 2012, 11:24:45 am
And as I was in the shower, I got to thinking again. (Dangerous, right?)

Set targets a lot of stuff. Things that aren't working. Inner weakness. Things built on sand instead of solid rock. Things we were sure were just fine but in the end weren't.

His sense of timing is . . . interesting, I'll admit.

It's so hard to separate Setian chaos from the Uncreated chaos, since Set is so familiar with the latter. Also, the two chaoses were equated with each other in later times. It's hard not to see a big bad bogey here.

Chaos is seen as a code word for, "something's gone horribly, horribly wrong." That's true, sometimes. Other times, it just means, "things are in transition and we have no clue what's going on. Stay tuned!"  Or even, "there is no possible way this is going to work out for you, so let's throw everything in the air and see if you find the wheat amongst the chaff. Hope you don't get motion sickness!"

At this point, I can't help but think of Hesiod, who claimed the Hellenic gods were born of Chaos. Except the word in this context actually refers to a gap. A gap in what I would guess to be nothingness.

UPG: chaos is a gap from which anything can emerge. Things good and bad. Whoever emerges is the one who fights smartest, not necessarily hardest. Whoever remains is the one who establishes the best footing. It's okay if we mortals don't get it right the first time. Most mythologies hold that the gods had to do quite a bit of tweaking to make the world run smoothly. Why should we be expected to get it right the first time around?

From a more Kemetic perspective--and I'm moving into UPG again--chaos is not a presage of total destruction, nor is it a presage of evil. It is a warning, a klaxon shaking us to our foundations so we'll pay attention. It is a sign pointing to a gaping serpent mouth, but also a reminder of our own light. That sounds cheesy, but I've found it to be true. We all have our own inner "Eye of Heru", a fire that cannot be extinguished unless we let the Evil One or his minions take it.

If Set tries to steal the Eye, it's only so we learn to defend it better. Again, is it fair? Not necessarily. Kind? Er, no. Useful? Yes. Think of it as a practice run. You can either practice with the chaos dude who'll at least leave you something to rebuild with, or you can practice with the serpent who won't leave you anything.

That's my view and now I'll shut up.
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: SolarPowered on December 16, 2012, 02:01:38 pm
I am not claiming chaos is necessarily bad, it is as often good as bad, but some people thrive in chaos, some in order I am usually the later. The chaos itself isn't my issue. I'll end this here by just saying YES, I know that there is a difference between the uncreated and Set. YES, Set mostly isn't bad. My experiences have been adversarial with him, maybe he is a good or practice adversary. Hopefully we will have a better understanding of each other in the future. But for now things are pretty tense.

Most of this is very personal too me. In some ways you can say that Set has taken great interest in me for some reason. From a very young age his energies have always been around in places I've lived, people I've known. and so often right in his wake the uncreated or something else comes along and destroys any good that may have happened. the 2 seem interconnected far too often. I'm tired of it. What peace and strength I've been able to find and bring to the world around me have come from Heru, Ra, Yinepu, Wesir and others like them. It may change but for now that is were I stand.
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Shezep_shuty on December 26, 2012, 11:24:47 am
When the storm is over, you come out of your basement. The first thing you say is "Holy %&^%!" Then, you say the second thing, "It could have been worse." That's when you tip your hat to the red guy. The tree fell this way and not that way. It could have been worse. He was watching your back. I'm rather 'solar powered' myself, but honestly, I love Set like a brother.

Ra is the one who has been the scary one to me. He's even one of my fathers. I'm not really sure what to say to other Ra kids because my relationship with him has been a bit rough. It's been a little more than a year since my RPD, more years than that since his meddling. I'm just now starting to figure out what he was doing.

Instead of hating or trying to avoid the scary ones, you should seek them out. They have a lot to teach you.
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Arefsenu on May 28, 2013, 07:12:15 am
Em hotep!

I don't find any of the Netjer scary but there are some who I find a bit intimidating.

When I think of Aset I imagine a cool, white orb that resonates gentle but don't-mess-with-me energy. She does intimidate me a little bit because there are a lot of stories and other Netjer surrounding Her.

The other Netjeru who I find intimidating is Ra. When I think of Him I see a flaming, burning, hot orb that is warm and infinitely big. Maybe it's this 'bigness' that frightens me.

I don't feel any negative or scary energies from these Netjeru, they just resonate with *something* that makes me a bit uneasy.

Senebty!
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Tuaira on May 29, 2013, 07:28:11 pm
I'm surprised to see people feeling intimidated by Ra. To me he's fatherly...First experience with him; was the day after halloween my mum had gone out to the nearby town and I felt lonely, and had broken my earphones so there was no chilling out. But then I decided to play music out loud, the song was "Heaven is a place on Earth" a nightcore remix of it. The sun was shyly hanging around the street and I started singing "Ra makes Aaru a place on earth" xD The sun got extremely bright as I sang and I felt a wave of joy come through me, then my older bro who hadn't been in contact for ages rang and asked me if I wanted to go to an Epic restaurant with him and his girlfriend. I knew that was a blessing from Ra and have had UPGs with him similar to that since.
-Long Story over lol-

As for scary Netjeru, never come across one. Have a big admiration for Set, seeing as my whole life may as well be chaos itself with all that has happened since I can remember, but that's what I kinda want, I believe it to be Set's way of toughening me up to the harsh reality of the world, especially since I'm the type to go into myself and read a lot of fiction books.
There's no need to fear Netjeru, I'm sure they wouldn't want you to fear them...As i think someone here said (or along the lines of), approach the gods you have a fear of and get to know them.
(Thinking about all this has made me realize I am a little wary of Nekhbet, not sure why... Probably because i find Vultures creepy in appearance...)
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: terrapin46 on August 23, 2013, 01:17:10 pm
I think they all have their awe-ful edges, being as old as time, as enormous as power, and as wide as God.

In particular though, right off the top of my head I'm intimidated to being afraid of Djehuty.  It wasn't always that way, when I was in high school I'd blithely scribble little moon-crowned ibises on the back corners of all my tests & exams, so I'm sure it reflects more on me.  But in high school it's easy to feel like you know it all, and I have since to come to also view Him as lord of clinically sterile science devoid of soul and calculatingly manipulative speech and magic.  I'm uncomfortable putting myself in the presence of such alien turf, none of it is a playing field I make a strong standing on and I fear the possibility of those sides whenever I consider approaching him.
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Tatjasobekra on August 23, 2013, 06:27:12 pm
Seeing as instability is kind of the bane of my life, I have a healthy wariness concerning inviting Set in any way. At least until I have a good hold over my life again.
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Blissi on August 24, 2013, 10:39:34 am
I think this threads been open a while,and in this time I have gotten  over my fear of Aset :) Infact she answered a prayer although I can say the bump of it happening was painful ( thunder lightening fire dreams ensued ) butfingers crossed i can see the end coming :)
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: N4ph2 on October 09, 2013, 05:25:08 pm
This was one of the first posts I read and actually a lot of help.

Seeing that I'm not alone in being rattled by certain appearances, particularly Set. My first encounter I completely freaked out...

Nephtys was even more rattling ahaha..it took me a while to get over that.



 
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Neferaset on October 11, 2013, 09:41:00 am
There is no God that scares me, I love them all.
its a bit hard for me to work with Sobek but just because he is a crocodile:)LOL
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Raheri on October 11, 2013, 10:02:04 am
I may love them, but they all scare me.
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Neferaset on October 11, 2013, 10:13:48 am
why? I see no reason to be afraid of them by my experience
The gods will not hurt me.. I'm child of Auset.
well maybe Apophis.. but I'm under protection of Auset and Het-heru so I will be fine I think and also I'm working with Bastet:)
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Sedjemes on October 11, 2013, 10:31:00 am
Hotep

Being scared of the gods has nothing to do with fearing They will hurt us.

They have high expectations of us--often, higher with more certainty than we tend to have for ourselves and how we sort through our lives.

That is a scary thing. It is. Scary to think that Someone sees us as stronger, smarter, more capable and worthy in every single moment, than we often do.

No god protects us from another god :) Here, we don't see it working that way. They each have things to teach us and things we need to be guided through, and sometimes one god will make it clear that another god is better at teaching a particular thing.

I kinda like that.
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Tuaira on October 11, 2013, 11:35:22 am
I think the Fear people speak of isn't the dark Fear we often think of, but a Healthy Respect, From my views:

The Netjeru are big and powerful, we are like little ants compared to what they know and are, and we (should) have a love for them, because of the things they do for us, the fact that they created life and are the reason we are living (whether we are living on earth or with them) and the fact that they are always there to offer guidance and love. Netjer loves every single one of us without condition, but that doesn't stop Netjer from being very angry/upset when we do something that goes against Balance and Goodness, and it also doesn't stop them from punishing us; like two weeks of bad luck or whatever they see fit. If you are obedient to the gods then you can achieve the full potential they gave you. And despite human's imperfect ways Netjer is always there for us. And all these reasons are why many have a 'healthy respect' for the Netjeru.

That's my two cents anyway.
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Neferaset on October 11, 2013, 05:16:12 pm
I understand I just thought that there's no point to fear from the gods becouse there is no point working gods, just because we are afraid of them
But I realized that the intention here was not to fear from them but to respect and to know that they are stronger than us and it Cool I agree with that too.

Basically I see them as my family.
I repsect my family too.
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Devo on October 28, 2013, 06:33:51 pm
Quote from: Scouting_For_Set
I think the Fear people speak of isn't the dark Fear we often think of, but a Healthy Respect, From my views:

The Netjeru are big and powerful, we are like little ants compared to what they know and are, and we (should) have a love for them, because of the things they do for us, the fact that they created life and are the reason we are living (whether we are living on earth or with them) and the fact that they are always there to offer guidance and love. Netjer loves every single one of us without condition, but that doesn't stop Netjer from being very angry/upset when we do something that goes against Balance and Goodness, and it also doesn't stop them from punishing us; like two weeks of bad luck or whatever they see fit. If you are obedient to the gods then you can achieve the full potential they gave you. And despite human's imperfect ways Netjer is always there for us. And all these reasons are why many have a 'healthy respect' for the Netjeru.

That's my two cents anyway.

idk if i agree, honestly. Nothing says NTR has to be full of love and light. There are plenty of times when NTRW are less then ideal and don't always do right by one another or by people. NTRW, like people, are allowed to like and dislike peeps as they see fit. Its within their limits to tell you to piss off with no real reason other than they feel like it, etc. I also think its fully within a NTRW to feel disdain for a person or to not want to work with a person. Or to even be a flat out jerk to a person.
I think a lot of modern folks like to view NTRW as being way happier than they might have been in the past. Esp when you consider a popular epithet was Lord of Dread (f'ex- its an epithet that Osiris carries, of all things). and that certain people required protection from certain gods- lest they eat your heart (see the PT).
I guess what I'm trying to say is that I don't think its safe to always assume that NTRW are always nice all the time, or that NTRW always have your best intentions at heart, etc.

*the above is regarded as a more generalized statement for people to consider and less directed at the person quoted.

-Devo
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: N4ph2 on November 05, 2013, 09:38:38 pm
I agree with Devo.

While a beginner in a lot of ways, I would immediately associate love with Set.

I would also associate these two words; Shrewd and Immense.

Not entirely positive traits all the time.
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Sageling on November 05, 2013, 10:03:04 pm
"Love" can also mean a lot of different things in different contexts. I don't have much experience with Set, but I imagine his brand of love is a tad different from, say, Bast's or Het-heret's. Not that He can't be gentle or They can't be fierce, of course.
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Arefsenu on November 06, 2013, 11:20:46 am
I agree with what Sedjemes said in that it's scary that someone (or some gods :P) see us as more than we see ourselves. I also agree with Devo in that They can like and dislike people. In a lot of myths the Netjer aren't what we would call nice.  

On the subject of Bast's love, Mum can be very loving and very protective, but She certainly isn't afraid of letting you know when you mess up!
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Salqu on May 07, 2017, 01:29:57 am
Sorry if it is not allowed to Necro posts, but I really could not resist...

Honestly, Sekhmet and Set scare the crap out of me sometimes! But I love them anyway.
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Tjemsy on May 07, 2017, 06:22:21 am
Sorry if it is not allowed to Necro posts, but I really could not resist...

Honestly, Sekhmet and Set scare the crap out of me sometimes! But I love them anyway.

Heyyy, Salqu! I'm always happy to chat about my Parents, if you'd ever like to drop me a PM sometime. <3
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Salqu on May 07, 2017, 08:09:41 am
Your parents are Sekhmet and Set? Well sure, you will find I'm pretty friendly I'll send you a PM
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Subani on May 07, 2017, 10:11:52 am
Set's my Beloved, and He *still* scares me. Chaos is scary! Storms can be really scary!
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Salqu on May 07, 2017, 12:17:30 pm
I know what you mean :P
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Gezausenu on May 07, 2017, 05:47:28 pm
Em hotep, Salqu!

My Parents are also Set and Sekhmet (Tjemsy and I are twins, so to speak!), so if you'd ever care to talk with me as well, please do drop me a PM. :) I thoroughly enjoy chatting about Them, especially since They can strike people as rather intimidating Gods. (Which isn't to say that They can't be, but there's far more to Them than that.)

Senebty,
Gezausenu.
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Salqu on May 07, 2017, 10:31:27 pm
I am aware, Set is one of my what I call sub-patrons. Will send you a PM
Title: Re: Scary Netjeru
Post by: Senuwierneheh on May 08, 2017, 08:33:20 am
Em Hotep, Salqu!

"Papa" Set doesn't scare me so much, but Sekhmet...  Oh, yes! 
"Mama" Hethert CAN turn into the raging lion under certain circumstances.  I think the Lioness's rage is only for those who transgress against Ma'at, however.  Nevertheless, I do feel the awe.

Set's anger is also only towards actions which promote the forces of Isfet and Ap/p, also.

That's important to keep in mind!

Senebty!
Neheh...