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[PUBLIC] About the Kemetic Orthodox Religion => [PUBLIC] Netjer (Our Gods & Goddesses) => Topic started by: Deswy on September 23, 2012, 12:22:36 pm

Title: Tefnut
Post by: Deswy on September 23, 2012, 12:22:36 pm
Regarding Tefnut..she is linked to the lunar and solar sky, right?  I've read somewhere that She is considered to be the Left and Right Eye of Ra?
Title: Re: Tefnut
Post by: Meresinepu on September 23, 2012, 01:53:45 pm
Em hotep Deswy *henu*

In response to your question ...here is the information from our glossary of names in regards to Tefnut :)  I wasn't sure if you saw this so put it out here so you could get some quick info on your request.

Tefnut - "Sky-spittle (i.e., rain)" One of the two first creations of the Self-Created One, Tem, Tefnut is twin to Shu and embodies the concept of airborne moisture, clouds, dew, or rain (Shu embodies the concept of air, wind or atmosphere). Tefnut is sometimes equated with Nit and Nut, and is depicted in New Kingdom jewelry and art as a female sphinx trampling the enemies of the Two Lands, equated with the Great Royal Wife of the king. Tefnut is generally depicted as a woman with a lion's head, surmounted by the sun-disk (resembling Sekhmet; however, Tefnut's ears are routinely pointed, whereas Sekhmet's are rounded), seated on a throne. She is sometimes shown as a full lion along with Her brother/twin Shu.

Hope that helps.  If you are looking for a more detailed response please say so and I'm sure you can get pointed in the right direction.

Senebty!
Title: Re: Tefnut
Post by: Deswy on September 23, 2012, 03:51:53 pm
Thank you, no, I knew that much already, thanks anyway...but I read about Her being called the Left Eye and Right Eye of Ra, I think referring mostly to the Left Eye of Ra as being the Moon and the Right Eye of Ra as being the Sun...I just wanted confirmation before I wrote about it on my blog.  I'm just doing more research....thought I'd start at Home, at the HoN forums...thanks, and many hugs for the help, Rev. Tania (Meresinepu).

Senebty,
Deswy
Title: Re: Tefnut
Post by: Rev. Shezatwepwawet on September 23, 2012, 04:13:53 pm
It's good to see you around again Deswy.
Title: Re: Tefnut
Post by: Deswy on September 23, 2012, 04:44:42 pm
Thanks.  I've been here, but had a lot on my plate.  Still do have a lot going on. But, I plan on being more visible...(winks)
Title: Re: Tefnut
Post by: Deswy on September 23, 2012, 04:48:50 pm
The more I'm reading, the more it appears that Sekhmet becomes the Right Eye of Ra, not Tefnut...it depends on what you read.
Title: Re: Tefnut
Post by: Tif on September 23, 2012, 05:24:20 pm
Hi Deswy. Where are you getting your information? Sounds like an interesting read.

I've always thought of Tefnut as a combination of water and fire (ie: the Eye of Ra), but that might be partial UPG. . .

If she's sometimes equated with Nit or Nut, I guess there are at least some nighttime aspects to Tefnut.
Title: Re: Tefnut
Post by: Deswy on September 23, 2012, 10:46:34 pm
I've been finding sources all over the internet.  One interesting site is a Thelemic one: thelemapedia.org which I find...intriguing. There is a good deal of information on the Web but some conflict...and Tefnut appears to have morphed into Sekhmet at some point...but then, that happens...
Title: Re: Tefnut
Post by: MiMafdet on September 23, 2012, 11:05:00 pm
Just wanting to add, Henadology touches on this slightly..
Quote from: Henadology
There is slightly more explicit support in Egyptian texts for Shu and Tefnut being considered as solar and lunar principles. In CT spell 607, the two eyes of Horus, “which issued from Atum, are Shu and Tefnut,” the Horus referred to here being Horus-the-Elder or Haroeris, the aspect of Horus which is the sky itself, his two eyes the sun and moon, which are here Shu and Tefnut. As for which is solar and which lunar, Tefnut is perhaps the more convincing candidate for lunar principle only inasmuch as the myth of the ‘Distant Goddess’ is at times applied to the lunar cycle and the ‘Eye of Re’ which returns to him is identified with the Eye of Horus (the wedjat) which is wounded and healed or stolen and restored, a myth referring to the moon among other things. Tefnut’s principal associations, however, are strongly solar.
http://henadology.wordpress.com/theology/netjeru/tefnut/
Title: Many Thanks
Post by: Deswy on September 24, 2012, 03:28:03 pm
Ooooohhh...thank you...nice.  I like that very much. I'm a magnet, keep throwing things my way....

Hugs,
Deswy

Title: Re: Many Thanks
Post by: Tif on September 24, 2012, 07:30:52 pm
Thanks for that Henadology excerpt, MiMafdet!

Thanks for telling me about your sources, too, Deswy. I'm not into Thelemic stuff, but it's still pretty interesting.

I find that the Eye of Ra goddesses do tend to meld and morph with each other. That's not to say they're all the same goddess somehow. They just sometimes wear the same hat. ;)