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Title: Djehuty and the lunar Eclipse
Post by: Maen on January 20, 2019, 02:17:46 pm
em hotep,

I was rereading about what Nisut (AUS) commented on Eclipses, and I was also talking about Djehuty on a German discussion board. And I had some alternate thoughts on the lunar Eclipse. I was wondering if this makes any sense to you.

When we take the "vizier of Ra" story as the base. As in: When Ra drew back from the humans and had Nut lift him into the sky, he made Djehuty his vizier and vice king.
Therefore one can see the moon as the vizier of the sun. When the sun is away at night, the moon takes over and gives light and watches over us and is a guardian of Maat.

Now, astronomically, the moon is always in direct contact with the sun light. Even at New Moon the moon is being lit up by the sun, it's just that we cannot see it from the earth.
So, would it make sense to say that Djehuty is always "on duty"? As in, always in contact with his king and receiving sun light, always in the sky around the earth, always watching over and guarding Maat as Djehuty.
Also, reflecting light back to us and lighting up the night sky according to his phase.

The lunar eclipse, however, cuts the strings of this duty. Because what happens? - The moon enters into the shadow of the earth. For a few minutes, he is cut off from the sun.
Bad for Maat, and a dangerous moment, as it is outside of the regular rules and the established system.
BUT: Isn't Djehuty a trickster, too? One who sometimes ventures far from the light, since he seeks and gains access to hidden knowledge? One who is known to love mischief and who now and again bends the rules to suit his goals?

Cut off from the sun, he suddenly has this moment outside of duty, outside the system. Outside of time?
Instead, he is now in the shadow of Geb, the Earth. The oldest of the Kings, a God of a great fertility.
And on his other side, the dark depths of cosmos. Nun, containing all the potential of pre-creation.

So, could we consider that the lunar eclipse may not (just) be an attack on the Eye of Heru, but the well-laid plan of a master strategist? Gaining Djehuty a special moment away from his duty, and access to the vast creative and fertile powers of Geb and Nun...


So, anyway, I sure hope for a clear sky to see the eclipse tonight (or rather, in the early morning in Germany)

senebty,

Ma'en
Title: Re: Djehuty and the lunar Eclipse
Post by: Djehutyendy on January 20, 2019, 04:45:24 pm
Em hotep, Ma'en!

I absolutely love your interpretation of this! Thank you so much for sharing!

I know eclipses were an ill omen in antiquity but I just don't feel that way about them at all. It's refreshing to also see that your thoughts on this are not necessarily regarding the eclipse as a bad thing :)

I have had so many thoughts and feelings leading up to this day, but they have mostly been UPG. Your interpretation on the eclipse meshes rather well with what I have been feeling!

Senebty!
Endy
Title: Re: Djehuty and the lunar Eclipse
Post by: meskhenet on January 20, 2019, 10:55:06 pm
This is such a nice interpretation of this! I've been watching the moon slowly shift to a red like hue wondering what something like this could mean in a Kemetic sense. This is a really nice way to think about it, and it definitely gets me thinking.
Title: Re: Djehuty and the lunar Eclipse
Post by: Sedjfaiemitui on January 21, 2019, 10:01:10 am
Em hotep nefer, all! :D

Personally, I can't interpret such ill-omened astral phenomena religiously as anything other than one of three things, the first two being historically substantiated and the third being a bit of a bending of historically-attested elements:

1.) Set's misbehaviour, specifically in His form of the voracious Black Boar (or beneficial behaviour to the extreme and violent).
2.) A/pep "overtaking" and then being beaten-back, which then requires some "restablishing Ma'at" ritual activity.
3.) Heru-Khenty(-n)-Irty (https://henadology.wordpress.com/theology/netjeru/khenty-irty/) doing some slaying in the darkness, being Master of Navigating/Cutting His way through the Darkness, and together with His four offspring otherwise very punitive toward what threatens Wesir (Wesir also being a sometimes-Lunar Divinity).

I also practice Mesopotamian religions secondarily, and in all such instances, Namburbi rituals to dispel the evil of these ill-omens are called for. There's really no positive interpretation of these astral "irregularities" (though scientifically, of course, we know these are rare but perfectly normal occurrences -- but the purposes of these rituals aren't a matter of material science).

Senebty!
Sedjfai
Title: Re: Djehuty and the lunar Eclipse
Post by: Ra'awyserqet on February 09, 2019, 03:13:36 am
Em hotep Maen!

What a neat and beautiful story!! Thank you so much for sharing it; I love hearing about modern re-interpretations of our myths.

Senebty
Ra'awy