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[PUBLIC] Welcome! / Re: Discussion
« on: November 08, 2017, 02:50:13 pm »
I'm kind of a weird case -- I'm multi-trad, and one of the traditions I work within is Lukumi (a.k.a. Santeria).  If I ever scare up enough money to become a priest, then I would essentially be committing myself to a burial ceremony called an itutu when I die.  All I know as a non-initiate is that the itutu involves an earth burial (no cremation allowed) and my orishas are put to rest.

The expectation for the itutu is so strong that it sets the tone for all my other considerations around my death.  But I BELIEVE I'm still allowed a lot of leeway in terms of what I'm buried with, and any other rituals performed.

If so, I would definitely like to incorporate the other trads I work within, including KO.  I would like the chance to say goodbye to the Gods and spirits I love, including the Netjeru, or more properly to have goodbyes said on my behalf.  And I would like rituals performed to ensure I cross the Duat safely and am able to work on behalf of the living.

A mausoleum sounds very expensive and I am very poor.  If I could buy what would amount to basically a share in a large mausoleum, that would be neat, but I'm under the impression that in the modern West mausolea (lol) are usually the sort of thing devoted to one person and their memory.

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[PUBLIC] Welcome! / Re: Hello from Wisconsin
« on: November 06, 2017, 12:03:05 pm »
Em hotep!  I'm in Madison.  It's good to see another Wisconsinite here.

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[PUBLIC] Prayer Requests / Re: my mother's estate
« on: October 03, 2017, 04:04:26 pm »
Thank you, everyone.  I deeply appreciate it.  This will not last forever!

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[PUBLIC] Kemetic Orthodox Q&A / Re: Waiting period for new Akhu?
« on: October 01, 2017, 09:07:33 pm »
Thank you!  PM incoming :)

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[PUBLIC] Prayer Requests / my mother's estate
« on: October 01, 2017, 01:24:14 pm »
I am preparing to head back south to Chicago to prep my mother's house for sale.  (I have never worked on a house before and have no idea wtf I'm doing)

It is very stressful to be down there for me for many reasons.  There's a lot of unresolved issues in my family and tbh I've wondered about if some unruly Akhu are hindering the project.

This summer I sprained or broke (we don't know, but it was bad) my ankle falling down the stairs while carrying a load of things.  About a month later I got into an accident that totaled my mother's car.  More recently, the handyman I hired to work on the house blew off the project entirely.

Regardless of the origins of the problems, the whole project has been very slow, and things have felt very inauspicious.  And while I've been dealing with this my life has been on hold.

But this is the last hurrah.  Please pray for me, for open roads, no accidents, and a clear and easy path forward, so I can resume the work of living.

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[PUBLIC] Kemetic Orthodox Q&A / Re: Waiting period for new Akhu?
« on: October 01, 2017, 01:20:24 pm »
Thank you!

I kind of got the impression that the rationale is for comparable reasons to what your neighbor gives:  they're getting settled.  It takes time.  Let 'em do what they need to.  ;)

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[PUBLIC] Kemetic Orthodox Q&A / Waiting period for new Akhu?
« on: October 01, 2017, 01:07:42 pm »
I am second-guessing myself, but:  I seem to recall crossing the Duat takes time.  You can offer prayers to/for the recently deceased, but they aren't a full Akh until the time period's complete.

(This is not unusual cross-culturally; my memory says it's 40 days before you add a new eggun to your ancestral shrine, in traditional Yoruba practice.  I think Shinto has a waiting period, too, but I don't recall how long it is.)

BUT I do not recall how long until the newly dead joins the other Akhu, in Kemetic practice.

Assuming I didn't make this up out of whole cloth -- can you remind me how long it is?  Sources are also appreciated.

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[PUBLIC] Netjer (Our Gods & Goddesses) / Re: Nit-Nebhtet-Seshat
« on: September 23, 2017, 12:47:41 pm »
That's interesting about Ptah-Sokar-Wesir, especially how the focus moved toward the final Name in the cluster.  My Mother turned out to be Aset-Serqet; I have a little trouble with Aset (due to my personal history with my family), so I'm approaching from the Serqet end and moving toward Aset.  I gather many Aset-Serqet people experience Her as VERY strongly and definitely Aset doing Serqet's work, but it heartens me to know there's precedent (both personally and historically) for approaching an aspected Name from the "back end" so to speak.

I'm also heartened to hear Iryi's story, too -- that sometimes we best understand just one aspect in a set, and that's OK.

It sounds like so long as we're working sincerely to understand an aspected Name, and can make contact with at least one in the set, we are doing well.  :)  I imagine the Netjeru understand that we can't always grasp Them in all Their complexity, especially when we're getting to know Them.

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[PUBLIC] Netjer (Our Gods & Goddesses) / Re: Nit-Nebhtet-Seshat
« on: September 22, 2017, 02:46:39 pm »
First off -- I did get the links, Zat, and thank you!  :)  That's very interesting, about how it's Nit-Nebhtet-Seshat and never Nit-Seshat-Nebhtet -- although IIRC Seshat-Nebhtet is attested to.  I am also not sure if most humans could readily distinguish between Nit-Nebhtet-Seshat and Nit-Seshat-Nebhtet.

I should be clear that the "cosmic" view is first impressions on my part, and not gospel.

TBH I probably need to refine my sense of Nit alone, possibly before I move on to aspects.  I first encountered Nit by way of warlike Anat, and was actually a little surprised to discover that Nit is a creatrix (even though I seem to remember Anat having comparable aspects -- She nurses the dusk and the dawn, for instance).

My previous focus on her warlike aspects is is part of why I perceive Nit as "hot" (to pull in a metaphor from other African traditional religions).  Rectifying Nit's role as creatrix with Her warlike aspects, in my head, is a little rough, but not impossible -- creation often involves a passionate drive, after all!

The analogy about "sides" makes me shiver, in a good way :)

I would hesitate to describe Them as a triple Goddess in Indo-European fashion, but I am struck by what I perceive to be dynamism, in how these three aspects work together.  I feel almost like They move in to fill each others' "gaps":  tempering Nit's heat; bringing an extra dose of drive and purpose to Nebhtet and Seshat.

I'm also reminded of what I gather was a very common syncretism with Nit in the ancient world:  Athena (who seemed to halfway-grab me very early on in my spiritual life; I now expect it was actually Nit-Athena).  Athena strikes me as very "cool" and calm thanks to Her wisdom (much like Seshat), but with a white-hot fire under the surface.

Thank you, everyone, for your advice and your assistance.

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[PUBLIC] Netjer (Our Gods & Goddesses) / Nit-Nebhtet-Seshat
« on: September 21, 2017, 04:53:24 pm »
She came up as a Beloved in my RPD yesterday.  Holy heck that's a lot of aspects, and while I see Her mentioned occasionally, I'm not seeing a lot of public discussion of Her nature.

I read around a little bit about how to understand tri-aspected Names, but I'm still a little in the dark.  If you've been approached by Her (or by 2/3 of the trio in aspect, or by any other triple-aspected Name), I'd really love to hear about your perceptions.

Here's my stab at Nit-Nebhtet-Seshat:

At first glance, She seems almost cosmic.  Nit is creatrix via Nun; Nebhtet is the very moment of ending, as well as the temple itself; Seshat is that which gives order to things, and which makes the plans and lays the foundation for the temple.  Together, They would seem to function in a generative fashion -- bringing quiet end to the old, and forging order out of Nun's chaos.

I perceive a lot of force and heat in Nit, but there's something quiet and cool in Her, too -- weaving, working, crafting, planning the arrow's path.  Nebhtet is quiet and calm and present in one of the most intimate moments we have -- grief -- and she also is patroness of brewing, which is slow and transformative.  Seshat's order-making (in both words and architecture) is calm, artful, cool.  In other words, they are all present (individually and jointly) in the minute, as well as the cosmic.

I am not clear on if Nit-Nebhtet-Seshat is the same as Nit-Seshat-Nebhtet, etc.  Even if they are different, I'm not sure it's very easy to tell the difference, as a human being.

Again -- I know I can and should (and will have to!) form my own opinions and perspectives, but I welcome yours.

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