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[PUBLIC] Kemetic Orthodox Q&A / Re: WANT TO SEE YOUR SHRINE PICTURES
« on: January 18, 2021, 12:28:17 am »
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/632974708777811980/800489858421751808/image0.jpg

My shrine is finally at the point where I'm happy to share it.

The two small boxes are low-smoke frankincense and sandalwood Japanese incense, and the gold-and-white feather is an incense holder. The white lotus is a candle holder, and I use locally made beeswax tealights or votives. The off-white tray is a handmade clay sushi dish from Thailand, and I use it to present my offerings. The four white tea cups and matching tea pot are for cool water during the Senut.

On top of the puja table (made without dedication to the Hindu pantheon) are my AGI statues for my mother Aset, and my beloveds Tefnut and Heru. Though the AGI for Tefnut is a Sekhmet icon, it radiates Her energy. All three statues were specifically requested by the Names that they're being used to represent. Finally, the gold-painted wood carving at Aset's feet is my Shemsu name in hieroglyphs, a wonderful and unexpected Moomas present from Sesaiaset. ♥


I really love your altar, it radiates peace and serenity. I just get this feeling of something very holy and ancient. The mixture of white and gold was such a good choice. Thank you for sharing.

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My favorite story is Sekhmet as the Eye of Ra who becomes insatiable in her bloodlust.

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[PUBLIC] Welcome! / Re: Hi everyone!!!!
« on: January 14, 2021, 06:32:09 pm »
Welcome Malka! I've faced adversity during my spiritual path too. I hope your Kemetic path becomes the light that shines through the darkness. I'm extremely fond of Sekhmet as well. :)

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[PUBLIC] Welcome! / Re: Em Hotep, everyone!
« on: January 12, 2021, 07:22:57 pm »
Welcome Julia! Enjoy youir stay! 😊✨

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[PUBLIC] Kemetic Orthodox Q&A / Re: What do you wear?
« on: January 03, 2021, 08:50:31 pm »
I recently purchased a Sekhmet pendant and an ankh pendant and I didn't think of wearing them until I found this topic. I'm going to be wearing them as often as I can now. My job prevents me from wearing jewelry. Here is a picture of me wearing the pendants: https://1drv.ms/u/s!AtIWbyvZGzIkp1YtX7AVg0B3SJh0.

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[PUBLIC] Welcome! / Re: About the beginning
« on: January 02, 2021, 07:35:31 pm »
Welcome, Nofret Hathor! I'm considering the beginner's class too. I hope you enjoy your journey on the boards. :)

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[PUBLIC] Welcome! / Re: Lost and Found
« on: January 02, 2021, 05:22:50 pm »
Welcome Siofra_Imrae! It sounds like you have a lot of life experience. Wishing you the best on your journey!

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having to hide your faith sucks, but, unfortunately, it is something many of us have had to do.

I have not had to hide it from my family, but I have had to downplay it.  I have gotten good at 'stealth godding'.

I have had to hide my faith from my community, due to the nature of my work and the conservatism of my area.  I have become more open in recent years about stating that I am not Christian, but not so open that I often talk about what my faith is.

If you are independent financially and emotionally, then I advise you to do as you wish in regards to practicing your spirituality.  However, doing as you wish doesn't mean you have to be 'in your face' about it with your parents.  Choose times when you have the house to yourself to do any formal rituals.  Confine your formal practices to your own personal space. 

Find some stealthier ways to keep your religious symbols with you.  For example, I have a lovely silver snowflake necklace with black gems that I have dedicated to Nebt-het.  I wear it in the winter months.  I know what it stands for, but everyone else just sees a pretty necklace.  Make a portable travel shrine, and keep it in your car.  Go to the local park with your shrine if you feel the need to do ritual, and you can't find private time at home.

As I said, it sucks to have to do these things, but being in constant battle with your family is not good either.  The Gods understand and are patient.  As long as you honor Them in your heart, and stay as true to Ma'at as you are able, I don't believe They will want you to endanger your familial relationships on their behalf.

Blessings on your journey wherever it takes you.  Remember that this journey through life belongs to you, and you alone.  You can honor and respect your parents, but you must live YOUR best life.  <3
I love the term "stealth godding", that's exactly what I'm doing now. :D ;D So far no one has asked any questions about my statues. I intend to expand my Egyptian theme so that the statues blend in even more.

I'm in the process of working on times to perform rituals. It's a little tricky since sometimes my family are night owls.

That is a good idea about the jewelry. I recently purchased a Sekhmet pendant and an ankh pendant that I can wear regularly. I did make a Sekhmet box that I could probably use as a travel shrine too.

Thank you for reminding me that this journey is mine alone. :) It gets hard to separate my thoughts and be an individual at times.

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[PUBLIC] Welcome! / Re: Igniting the flame
« on: January 02, 2021, 01:49:05 pm »
Blessings and welcome. 

I would recommend you learn about and try to get to know Khonsu of the Knives as well.  One of the roles that Khonsu has taken on is that of a mind-healer (mental illnesses and such).

One thing I would like you to have a clear and unclouded knowledge of is this:

Our Gods will NEVER ask us to do anything that is against our own best interest, or is harmful to others.  They may (and do) push us into uncomfortable waters sometimes as They help us grow and develop, but never never never into harmful actions.  If you hear voices claiming to be any of our Netjer and telling you to do something against your own health, well-being, or safety - STOP.  Evaluate your mental state. Speak to your mental health team.

Blessings and Senebty,

Tahai

*Senebty means 'health', and is often used in equivalent to the English 'good bye'
Thank you, Tahai! I've been feeling a pull toward Khonsu lately, but I was wondering if he was the right deity for me.

The voices I hear tend to answer my thoughts or comment on my moods so if I'm thinking about Netjer they will attempt to respond in that way. But they also respond to mundane things as well so I'm just going to ignore any voices that I hear. I really prefer more subtle communication with the gods anyway. I love receiving messages that I can put together like a puzzle. I trust that if the gods really want to communicate with me, they're not limited to words and emotions.

I will keep in mind that Netjer will never force me into harmful actions because the voices don't exactly have my best interests at heart.

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[PUBLIC] Kemetic Orthodox Q&A / Re: WANT TO SEE YOUR SHRINE PICTURES
« on: January 01, 2021, 07:06:18 pm »

That is so beautiful, Senuwierneheh! I'm so amazed by everyone's shrines. This is how mine looks right now:
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AtIWbyvZGzIkp0rHVFyLKoIMYJOe
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AtIWbyvZGzIkp0uG0IL0OaNUI8fg
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AtIWbyvZGzIkp0ntZywUA2NhMcbV

It's on my computer desk so I can always see it. Sekhmet's statue is in the middle, Set's statue is on the left, Thoth’s statue is on the right, Nut's statue is on the far left, and Bastet's box is on the far right. The flame sculptures represent Sekhmet's fire aspect. I'm going to purchase an end table for devotionals/spells and a glass tower to display more statues. I want another Nut statue and one that represents her and Geb. I only feel this fluidity with her statues at the moment. I also want to include artwork on the wall above my shrine.

I simply meditate and speak directly to the gods for now. I want to incorporate offerings soon and write more formal prayers in the future. I’m not poetic by any means though!

I was so terrified of putting the statues up at first because my family members would not approve. But I loved Sekhmet's statue so much I couldn't bear to keep it hidden in the closet. It was as if she wanted to be out. So far no one has asked about the statues and I hope it stays that way. I'm going for an Egyptian theme if anyone asks. :P


very pretty. the way you describe the fiery side of Sekhmet reminds me of Sekhmet-as-Nesret, the Great Flame.
Thank you so much, Rev. Ma'atnofret! :) I primarily worship Sekhmet in that aspect as a fire goddess of destruction.

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It's not the most ideal but as long as you're not a minor, you should be fine! There are definitely people in the House in similar situations to yourself. Ideally you'd need to be able to have a physical practice, like maintaining shrines and performing Senut, so that may be an obstacle (if you need to keep stuff hidden) but there are plenty of (discreet) ways around that, too, until you're in a better living situation. As long as your living situation wouldn't be at risk and there is no danger to your person.  :)
Hello Amarantheia, thank you for replying! At the moment, my shrine is on display and it hasn't really attracted any attention so far (https://1drv.ms/u/s!AtIWbyvZGzIkp0rHVFyLKoIMYJOe). I want to expand my Egyptian theme so that the statues blend in with the rest of the room. As long as my family doesn't give me any flack, I'm fine with my living situation.

Ma'at is a concept that ultimately, we as mere mortals can only do our best to work towards. We don't know for sure what is or isn't ma'at, though in many cases we can take a very good guess!

What I'm meaning here is, some might say potentially disrupting your family life goes against ma'at. Others might say that forcing someone to live under the shackles of an oppressive family is against ma'at. Who is right? We don't really know.

What we do know is that KO has rules to minimise the chances that someone will end up in a very poor situation (say, kicked out by their guardians with no means of supporting themselves) as a result of the temple accepting their membership request. The temple does not wish to be the cause for such trauma and difficulty in an applicant's life. But those rules centre around you being a financial dependent and/or a minor. If neither of those things apply, the temple basically considers that the ramifications are yours to consider. It would be up to you in that case to decide whether you felt applying to join the beginner's class was the right thing for your life.

The same is true of your mental health really. We have many members who have many different kinds of mental illnesses and experience many different symptoms, and as far as I've seen it's left to those individuals to determine what's best for them in terms of pursuing their faith. If there ever appeared to be a severe risk to someone's well-being, that might change, but I haven't personally ever seen this happen.

~Isha
Thank you for your insight, Tai'awepwawet. My family would be taking more of a hit if they kicked me out as I pay the rent! We really do need each other but I've lived alone a few months ago and I was fine. I just didn’t want to join Kemetic Orthodoxy under false pretenses. I would fully accept the consequences of my decision. My illness has made things difficult, but I’ve been working through it. Setting up my shrine has really helped give me peace and perspective.

I'm not a member of the house and so do not speak for them. I did notice that you say your parents live with you. Do you own the home your are living in or are at least responsible for paying rent?
If yes, then surely your parents should respect your religious choices (mental health problems or no - I have had trouble as well). If they are under your roof then they should abide by your rules?
I'm probably opening up a huge can of worms for you here. It's just that I had parents who disrespected my choices and my rules even once I had moved into my own home. It's very frustrating to have to dance to other peoples tune, especially regarding something as important as your spiritual path.
Thank you for responding, Senneferet. I am responsible for paying rent. My mental illness started to really show itself when I began exploring my spiritual path so that is a point of concern. I really don't need them to respect my religious choices as this would be impossible, but I just don't want them confronting me about my spiritual path. It is frustrating because you feel like you can’t be your true self. I just wish I had found this path before my mental breakdown so it wouldn't be a problem.

First, hello!

Second, a reminder - though I am a member of the House of Netjer, I do not speak for the temple, the religion, or anyone but myself.

This is a tough situation to be in, and there are no easy answers. I have lived briefly, as an adult, with my dad who forbad me to do anything Kemetic in his house and demanded that I go to church on sundays or live on the street. I had been a member of the temple for almost 10 years at that point. It cause a huge fight that ended in a stalemate (I agreed not to set up my shrine for the 2 months I lived there, and I wasn't required to go to church, but mostly because I was working most sunday mornings). That fight and the anger it brought about didn't get dealt with for years afterwards.

Though I don't know you and your situation, I obviously don't want anything like that to happen to you or anyone else. Anger and resentment is not a healthy thing between any people, but especially within a family.

All that said, the beginner's course is designed to be a "step 0" of membership in the temple. No commitment, no cost, just a bunch of knowledge that introduces you to the concepts of how the temple and faith are organized, how we interact with Netjer and our Akhu, etc. It's the kind of stuff you would learn growing up in the culture (if we had a localized community of practitioners).

No matter what you wish to do, though, I do advise talking with them. You can't hide part of yourself successfully for long, and I agree, it's not within ma'at to do so. Invite your parents to join you in the beginner's course, to see what you see, to assuage their fears about cults, demons, etc. Like I said above, there is no commitment to the temple to take the beginner's course, and quite a few parents, spouses, and friends of members have done so.

Another but of info I've given out to others in the past. There's no rush to take the beginner's course and become a member. The faith isn't going anywhere, Netjer isn't going anywhere, the love they have for us won't fade. Waiting sucks, but sometimes it is necessary.

I wish you all the luck and peace of figuring out what to do.
Thank you so much for sharing, Padjaiemweru. I am so sorry about the situation with your father. That is one of my worst nightmares to be stifled and forced to practice another religion. I hope you have been able to heal since then and make peace.

When I was about to move in with my brother, he told me he didn't want me practicing (I wasn't Kemetic at the time though) and it broke my heart. Fast forward to the future and he's a real estate agent and we're about to move into a house owned by him. It makes me extremely uncomfortable but I'm pushing forward for the sake of my family. I just don't want to be confronted about my spiritual path and have it turn into this huge fight. I don't really want to discuss my spiritual path with my family though. I just feel like I want something that's mine and mine alone if that makes any sense. Thank you again for your advice. It really does help me. I think I want to consider joining the beginner’s class after I read through everything again. :)

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[PUBLIC] Welcome! / Re: Another joins the ranks
« on: January 01, 2021, 02:22:13 pm »
Wecome Forge! I'm new here too. :)

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[PUBLIC] Welcome! / Re: Igniting the flame
« on: January 01, 2021, 02:14:44 pm »
Thanks Morgana1860, Nix, and Asetmehheri! :)

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[PUBLIC] Kemetic Orthodox Q&A / Re: WANT TO SEE YOUR SHRINE PICTURES
« on: January 01, 2021, 02:09:33 pm »
While visiting my shrine early this evening, I noticed the way the sun was kissing Sekhmet's statue.  I think She didn't mind when I paused my meditation to grab the camera:

http://joanannlansberry.com/journal/arch2020/20200918b.jpg

The red ribbon is from regnal year 25.....
(I might add a white ribbon to it....)

Senebty,
Neheh...
That is so beautiful, Senuwierneheh! I'm so amazed by everyone's shrines. This is how mine looks right now:
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AtIWbyvZGzIkp0rHVFyLKoIMYJOe
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AtIWbyvZGzIkp0uG0IL0OaNUI8fg
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AtIWbyvZGzIkp0ntZywUA2NhMcbV

It's on my computer desk so I can always see it. Sekhmet's statue is in the middle, Set's statue is on the left, Thoth’s statue is on the right, Nut's statue is on the far left, and Bastet's box is on the far right. The flame sculptures represent Sekhmet's fire aspect. I'm going to purchase an end table for devotionals/spells and a glass tower to display more statues. I want another Nut statue and one that represents her and Geb. I only feel this fluidity with her statues at the moment. I also want to include artwork on the wall above my shrine.

I simply meditate and speak directly to the gods for now. I want to incorporate offerings soon and write more formal prayers in the future. I’m not poetic by any means though!

I was so terrified of putting the statues up at first because my family members would not approve. But I loved Sekhmet's statue so much I couldn't bear to keep it hidden in the closet. It was as if she wanted to be out. So far no one has asked about the statues and I hope it stays that way. I'm going for an Egyptian theme if anyone asks. :P

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[PUBLIC] Welcome! / Re: Igniting the flame
« on: December 31, 2020, 02:42:34 pm »
Welcome!

My main piece of advice to anyone who comes here is just to keep an open mind, and to share or contribute however you feel able or inspired, because a community is only bettered by the sharing of knowledge and experiences from a wide variety of people :)

~ Nesi

Thank you for the advice, Nesiwepwawet. :)

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