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[PUBLIC] Prayer Requests / Re: Doing a Mama Sekhmet Thing
« on: April 28, 2018, 11:24:57 pm »
I just want to echo the support that's been offered here and I truly wish you the best.  I will have you in my prayers.  It's a powerful thing to stand up to the unjust and powerful and you're doing good not only for yourself but for others by this action.  So thank you, and may Ma'at be present with you <3

Hey all, I've been reading Jan Assmann's 'The Search for God in Ancient Egypt' and I'm loving it thus far.  I've read Naydler's 'Temple of the Cosmos' which is great but doesn't seem to be fully rooted in ancient Egyptian thought processes.  That's obviously fine but I wanted to dig deeper and get a more academic perspective.  Anyway, I came across a section on laments and apocalyptic prophecy.  Assmann cites the Hermetic text 'Asclepius' written in the 3rd or 4th century CE (I think?) and its apocalyptic prophecy (which is really quite poetic!).  He states that "the typically Egyptian association of cult and natural religion is nowhere made as explicit as in this text" and then went on to discuss common laments that were written presumably during the intermediate periods or thereabouts all the way back to the Old Kingdom.

Connecting the fear or trepidation of ancient Egyptians concerning the threat of distance between the gods and humanity to the concept of Ma'at was really enlightening to me.  He writes about the Egyptians' perspective of "a world that humankind had rendered uninhabitable by offending against the harmony of a socially conceived reality, by contravening the principle of solidarity.  The principle of plentitude that made the world a flourishing paradise was Maat, 'Right.'  Its opposite devastated the world, because the gods renounced their dwelling, not only in the temples of the local dimension, but also in the life-giving powers of nature in the cosmic dimension."

I just found that to put such wonderful context to our practice and especially the work of w'abu and Hemet (AUS).  The cultivation of a relationship with Netjeru isn't so much about us individually but us collectively and the world in which we live, and in driving back apep or isfet.  It is a service of deep connection that makes this quilt of reality ever more interwoven and harmonious.  And that harmony (or lack thereof) can be thought to directly feed into the social sphere and vice versa.  Not that everyone who isn't doing senut or whatever is making the world worse but the very act of a prayer, sending good vibes, or even doing something charitable or friendly is a small piece of Ma'at in a world that desperately needs more of it.

Just some thoughts I had. :)

[PUBLIC] Welcome! / Re: Hi again!
« on: April 15, 2018, 08:34:35 pm »
Hello Makaroth,

Its nice to see you again. Welcome back. 

I know that me being drawn to these deities doesn't mean they'll show up in the RPD if I am able/choose to do that eventually, nor does it mean if they don't show up that me being drawn to them is somehow a mistake.  Just thought I'd throw it out there in case anyone wants to share their thoughts!

In regard to your question about other Gods/Goddesses (Names) showing up prior to a person's RPD, it has been known to happen :)  When you have Gods/Goddesses showing up prior to your RPD, it could mean many things.  You may find out that you have a special relationship with one or more of the Names hanging around you.  Perhaps some could turn out to be in your line up /Parentage but perhaps not.   

Don't focus on who you think should be there, rather go with the flow of things and see how they show up during your divination.  If you have been divined, that does not mean that you can't have another relationship with another Name or Names.  If you have not been divined yet, those other Names hanging around you now could be possible parent/beloveds for you but they may not be.  They may be Names who have a selected/special reason for being there. 

When you have your RPD with Hemet, most of the time, those things are addressed as you would find out to whom you belong as well as who your beloved(s) may be.  Regarding our Beloveds, You can always get a new beloved at any time.  I've never seen a beloved come into a person's life and  walk away.  Once they are there they usually remain a part of you life until your time is up and your journey to the next life begins.

Each of us has a unique relationship with not just our Parent(s) and Beloveds but also many of the other Names as well.  You don't have to stop interacting with the Names once you are divined....I still call on the other Names when I need something special or want to know more about them.    Each experience is unique and it has a meaning to that person. 

For me personally, when my RPD came, I had other Names that has been showing up prior.  I did not know what they wanted and a few of them I didn't know who they were.  When the time came to have my RPD with Hemet, she asked me some questions to which I responded.  When I gave my ansers it was apparent that there were other Names that I didn't know about who had been actively working with me for quite some time (as far back as I can remember for Amun and back to at least 1997 for Bast).  Aset and Hethert came into my life a little later but I suspect that they had also been there but I wasn't ready to see them until they each showed up.   

I hope that helps answer that question? I will let others add their own thoughts. If you have any other questions, please let us know. 

Enjoy your journey.


Thank you for that wonderful response!  I tend to over-analyze everything but I've made an active attempt to rather just let these things try to roll on through, going with my gut and writing down any impressions and letting them stay with the page.  I can always come back to it later and use the power of hindsight to possibly figure out what I've been experiencing or note anything exceptional that doesn't seem huge now but may then.  I love reading the stories of others here so thank you again for sharing. :)

[PUBLIC] Welcome! / Re: Hi again!
« on: April 13, 2018, 12:39:32 pm »
Thanks everyone for the warm welcome!

[PUBLIC] Welcome! / Hi again!
« on: April 11, 2018, 02:54:02 pm »
So, I was going to take the October beginners' class (I was accepted) and then I don't know what happened but everything just went kind of haywire and I never ended up participating.  It was frustrating since I'd done the same thing a couple of years ago.  :-[

I've re-applied for the June class and I'm hoping to be accepted into this one AND I'll actually participate because I genuinely regret letting it slip by me in the fall.  I figured I should re-introduce myself here in the meantime (hi! :P ) and I've been reading all across  the forums for the past few days and I'm currently reading Jan Assmann's 'The Search for God in Ancient Egypt' as well as a couple of other books.

I've mostly felt drawn to Amun vs. Amun-Ra, but I'm really into the whole hiddenness thing, can anyone clarify differences?  I've also been drawn to Bast-Mut (this was kind of out of left field and new for me but I've embraced it), Khonsu (again, not expected), Djehuty (per usual lol), and for some reason Sobek or Sobek-Ra.

I know that me being drawn to these deities doesn't mean they'll show up in the RPD if I am able/choose to do that eventually, nor does it mean if they don't show up that me being drawn to them is somehow a mistake.  Just thought I'd throw it out there in case anyone wants to share their thoughts!

I plan to start doing senut soon since I have a copy of 'The Ancient Egyptian Prayerbook.'  One of my greatest weaknesses is treating everything from a sort of academic viewpoint and practice goes lacking.  I'd really like to focus heavily on practice and engaging with you all here so I don't let the class slip by me. :)

[PUBLIC] Prayer Requests / Re: Fighting the long night of the soul
« on: April 11, 2018, 02:38:53 pm »
I just wanted to add to the support given here and I sincerely wish you all the best.  This is such a wonderful community from what I have seen already and I truly feel that everyone here and your gods (what a line-up to support you when you need to fall back on them!) are here for you.  It's hard to offer words for the kind of pain and trauma you've dealt with but hopefully hand-in-hand we can each give you something you need.

Many blessings <3

[PUBLIC] Welcome! / Re: Hello everyone!
« on: September 25, 2017, 01:52:12 pm »
Thanks, everyone! :)

And I will be sure to keep my Senut shrine and practice free of any specific deity images.  I think it's good advice anyway, especially because I have limited exposure to Kemetic gods and the nudges I'm getting are very...nebulous?  I guess it's because I've reached out to the Universe so I feel as though I'm getting some sort of response but I don't know what to make of it yet.

Yay for Djehuty!!! <3


I don't see a lot of His devotees so hi! :) If you have any suggested resources, blogs, books, etc. I'd love them! 

[PUBLIC] Welcome! / Hello everyone!
« on: September 24, 2017, 03:21:46 pm »
Hi!  Just wanted to introduce myself - my browser remembered my username and password for the forum so I guess I signed up way back and never posted anything.  :P

My name is Matt, I live in Northwest Louisiana, I have an obsession with religious studies, video gaming, and sci-fi/fantasy/horror anything, and I just really like wine.  I originally applied for the beginner's class some time ago but never followed through so I've gone ahead and applied again for the class starting in October.  It's a REALLY long story about what happened in between - think recovering monotheist - but suffice to say I finally feel ready to at least learn after having processed my experiences and doubts.  I've been lurking the forum and reading a bunch of tumblrs and wordpress blogs connected to Kemetic Orthodoxy so that's been fun.  I'm also collecting the few supplies and things I need for Senut.

And speaking of, I do already have some sort of interest in or connection with Wesir I think (it's very hard to describe, super subtle and faint).  I may have a connection with Sobek or Sobek-Ra and potentially Bast-Mut, but again it's very hard to describe.  And I've always been drawn to Djehuty.  I know starting out it's encouraged to leave our options wide open but I have a Wesir statue and a candle to Ma'at and Djehuty on the way - would I be fine using these for Senut?  I figured I could put Wesir on my akhu shrine (once I get that up) and the candles can honestly go anywhere if I should leave them off at first - I could always dedicate them to it later.  Just curious what y'all might think.

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