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[PUBLIC] Netjer (Our Gods & Goddesses) / Re: Wesir and water abstinence?
« on: September 11, 2020, 06:51:14 am »
Yanno, I almost wonder if a third possibility isn't someone who just doesn't like water and feels like she needs an excuse to justify it (depending on if we're talking, "I was told not to drink water, specifically, but I drink other things," or if it's an umbrella for claiming not to intake liquid at all, I've heard some other strange things in that living-off-sunshine-and-moonbeams vein). Water always seems "off" to me no matter what the origin or temperature, but my sensory processing issues are just nuts, so there are a LOT of things on that same list. And I can't imagine ever having tried to use, "You know what? GOD," about something like that because it's so...weirdly specific and impossible to back up, especially with it being Kemetic/pagan/etc, but there were definitely points when I was younger and just wanted people off my back rather than arguing about stuff, that I'd slap something Biblical around, because that was the easiest way to manage that with the people in question.

(Or it's a, "Look how devoted I am, I'm living off sunshine and moonbeams thing," both of which are still a, "Yeah, but Wesir definitely didn't/wouldn't ask you for that," but yeah that was my first thought.)

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[PUBLIC] Netjer (Our Gods & Goddesses) / Re: Ptah-Sokar-Wesir
« on: May 19, 2018, 12:26:41 am »
Em hotep!

<snippity about Wesir-as-Sokar>

This is from my journal and I didn't document sources, but it looks like information Hemet probably relayed to me in the past.

I know she's said something similar to me as well. I have Sokar-Wesir AND Ra as Beloveds, and as long as I don't think about it too hard, it doesn't break my brain too much. @.@ (Actually, it's kind of cool. I've got the light and the darkness and the jackals and the shadows...)

I *do* get Sokar-Wesir very heavily on the creative end, but it's less...creation-in-process than the instant before creation. I'd hesitate to even call it the potential of creation, because that (to me) always carries a little connotation of, "It could happen, but it could also not happen." There's no Could with it. It Will. It Is. It just has to Finish Up This Last Bit Of Cosmic Paperwork Real Quick. It's that moment when the storm has been building, the sky's black and the clouds are low and the air smells like electricity and rain, and there's no, "Maybe it's going to," it's, "You should probably go inside RIGHT NOW before you get struck by lightning." That half-second when you're running for the door because there's still a chance you won't get completely soaked (and just as it's slamming behind you, the sky opens up and the torrent comes down, and that's the line where it goes from 'Will' to 'Is').

He's very heavy. The first time I felt Him, I didn't know what was going on and it was a little frightening. I had just walked outside (at night, which I do often), and there was a Pressure I couldn't explain. Once I figured it out, the fear went away. That's not what He's trying to do. He's just large, expansive, not so much something that can be processed by trying to give it a body or a shape because He's just too woven into the universe itself. More Feels than Words.

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[PUBLIC] Kemetic Orthodox Q&A / Re: Not eating my offerings?
« on: December 09, 2017, 04:04:45 pm »
All of that being said - One thing I don't see addressed often is while food can seem like a normal, easy offering for people who enjoy food and don't have issues with it (or have minimal issues with it), it's not as great for people for whom that's not the case. To use the cake example, it's like being at a party where there's cake, not having a problem with other people enjoying the cake, but then having the cake pushed on you and being treated like there's something wrong with you, or you're bringing the party down, because you don't want any yourself. If you have a very obvious medical reason for not being able to do cake, something on the level of diabetes or an allergy, maybe you'll get a pass. But if you just don't LIKE cake, or you're on a diet, or you have a problem that people aren't as aware of or don't understand (and are therefore less willing to accept as valid), you get the, "Well, can't you just have a little? You're hurting the feelings of the birthday kid/person who brought the cake/people who feel sorry for you missing out."

So a thing where offering and sharing food isn't just an option, but kind of a basic expectation, can be really, REALLY awkward when eating is a chore at best and a miserable struggle at worst. It's one thing when you can work around it by thinking, "If (this) isn't an appropriate offering for me, I can offer (that) instead," but if all you're thinking is, "I hate this, I resent the entire concept of needing to eat to survive, and I just want it to be over with as quickly as possible..." Generally, that's something people wouldn't see as a good place to approach the Gods from, you know?

(My workaround for that is I offer food in shrine/as something special very, very rarely, and if I feel I do need to, I tend to do the "Small/symbolic offering, that can be put outside/given to a pet/whatever as long as it's just not going into the trashcan" thing. I will offer what I'm already eating, without taking it into shrine, but by the time you factor in not just the, "Ugh, food, why?" aspect, but all the OCD crap I have to go through both before and after saying grace on top of it, it's still not something that there's much joy or gratitude in.)

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Em hotep!

This is neat and a very kind thing for you to offer, and I've sent you a PM with some questions about it!

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[PUBLIC] Netjer (Our Gods & Goddesses) / Re: Ocean and sharks
« on: February 28, 2017, 12:21:14 am »
Oh man. I wanted to be a marine biologist SO HARD for most of my life. There's a lot of math, though, and my illneses aren't conducive to...anything, really, but especially things like diving, so it didn't pan out. :/ I still love me some ocean, though. Whales, sharks, cephalopods, the deepest deeps... There was an online shark education course I wanted to do last summer, but of course I forgot. >_<

I'm in kind of the same boat (ha!) as Taji, where I have an intense affinity for the sea more than fresh water, but there aren't a lot of Kemetic associations to work with. Different past life, maybe. For me, the idea of the Nun has worked to fill some of the missing space there. The waters of creation, and whatnot. And Ra and Wesir (Sokar-Wesir, in my case) are both Boat Riders and I was given a specific message with regards to me, Them, and water in general that was incredibly beautiful and comforting, so...

Tangent: Anyone else watch the Nautilus Live expedition streams? (Or Okeanos?) If you're not and you're an ocean person, you should definitely check it out when they set out again! They broadcast the feeds from their deep sea ROV cams and you can send in questions and comments. It's great. =D

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[PUBLIC] Kemetic Orthodox Q&A / Re: Venting and Heka
« on: August 01, 2016, 07:41:58 pm »
My actual answer to the question is, "I don't know; but someone else probably does."

Just speculation-wise, though, I tend to think the universe is cruel but not necessarily stupid, and I'd wonder if the act of saying/thinking, "I put this into writing to remove it from (purify) my mind," might not also be a form of heka (one that in this case would be a protection against someone being targeted, rather than it intentionally making them a target). If you're really worried about it, maybe you could do something like adding a strikethrough once you have it written, to symbolize that you're destroying those thoughts? Then it will look like this. (The code for that in HTML is <s> to open and </s> to close; if you need it for something like a board, swap the pointy brackets for the square ones!)

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[PUBLIC] Kemetic Orthodox Q&A / Re: Need Offering Help
« on: June 05, 2016, 10:53:55 pm »
I've had to throw out some food before because I just couldn't have it (I have sensory issues too) and I didn't receive any negativity from the gods.

^--- This. There's really not a lot of food I can eat to begin with because mine are so bad, and sometimes even what I can, I can't. If it was something safe for cats/dogs, I used to put it down for them, but since I'm no longer living in a cat lady house (the cat I still have  is only very rarely interested in people food) and my dog is allergic to grain/corn/etc, that's not as much of an option now, so if my boyfriend doesn't want it, tossing it is the only thing I can do if it's a sensory issue - if it's just a case of, "Made too much, going in the fridge," I'll usually eat it later (leftovers are a pretty significant part of my diet largely because not having to try and figure out a different food for every meal makes things easier on me), but once it's triggered me for any reason - whether it's the taste not being right or the texture being off - I won't be able to finish it, and it'll just sit in there and go bad anyway.

Sometimes if I'm not sure whether or not I can eat something, I won't offer it until I've tried it. Which probably isn't the "proper" way to do it, but at least then I don't feel like I'm throwing Their dinner away, too. Otherwise, it just goes under, "It's the thought that counts." (Though in this case, I'm talking about things sharing like breakfast/lunch/dinner/snacks with Them. If I'm making a specific offering specifically for Them, it's usually either something I'm sure about, or I do a smaller, more symbolic portion that I know I can dispose of by giving to an animal/plant/the ground without being asteful.)

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[PUBLIC] Kemetic Orthodox Q&A / Re: Hoping for a specific Parent?
« on: May 21, 2016, 11:14:36 pm »
I think we all went through it!

It was a little scary for me when I first heard that certain Netjeru, including Yinepu, sometimes lead people to the House and then step back and turn out not to be part of their lineup, because I'd been so close to Him all my life and couldn't imagine what I'd do if He didn't show up. For me it all turned out okay!

There have been cases where someone's results were completely unexpected to that person (actually, my Beloveds were that for me), and I think even a very few where someone got a Name they had no prior relationship whatsoever with or didn't particularly care for, but the very grand majority of us end up happy no matter what. =)

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I actually tend to call Bast "Mama Bast", especially when I'm going to Her for something. Even though I know that She isn't really a cat, being a cat person (well, an animal person in general, but I do wuv me some widdle kittybitties), the theophany is one that resonates with me and that I'm comfortable with, and particularly considering that a lot of the time I'm asking Her to watch over my furbabies in some fashion, I always think of her as kind of the Big Mama of ALL the babies. So it's not so much that I'm doing it as Her being MY mom, as when there's an older person you're close to, and you sort of "adopt" the like an aunt or an uncle or a second mother? Like that. There've been a couple of times I've caught myself referring to Sekhmet the same way - I've never really gone to Her for much, but when I hear about something that makes me think of Her in big rawry protector mode for someone? Totally Mama Sekhmet. Nobody's objected yet, that I can tell.

(And Yinepu is always "Daddy" to me, not me, not "Dad", unless I'm talking about Him to other people, or I'm addressing Him formally for reasons of a very formal supplication - but most of the time He's just my Daddy, because He makes me feel warm and safe.)

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[PUBLIC] Kemetic Orthodox Q&A / Re: How private are you about your faith?
« on: December 22, 2015, 07:54:47 am »
I'll discuss it IF people seem interested and open-mind, but other than that, I keep it to myself, partly because I don't feel that it's appropriate to throw religion into other people's faces without an invitation, and partly because I'm an extremely private person in general. I don't believe that there's anything about me that's anyone else's business - not my friends, not my family, not my boyfriend. The question "How are you?" instantly makes me incredibly angry. I've come to the conclusion that it's a result of the way I was treated when I was younger - I was constantly being dragged to doctors, therapists, and hospitals and forced into therapy and onto medications because other people didn't approve of me, with zero concern for whether or not I wanted to be "helped", so to me, any question about how I feel, who I am, or what I'm doing is a threat and I need to protect myself. So I don't tell anyone if I'm in physical pain until it's gotten to the point where I can no longer deal with it at all, I don't tell anyone if I'm in emotional pain because I don't want them intervening, I don't talk about my day because no one wants to hear that it was another miserable failure purely because I woke up, I don't talk about my hobbies because I don't need anyone telling me I need to learn other ways of functioning, I don't talk about my religion because I don't need anyone either trying to save me, or denigrating me because there are no gods. Basically I just try not to talk to anyone about anything, ever, unless I'm forced to because they won't shut up and leave me alone.

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[PUBLIC] Netjer (Our Gods & Goddesses) / Re: Deified Royals
« on: September 26, 2014, 03:55:45 am »
Quote from: Gleb
Wait a second, why would somebody be defied? Unless the person did evil things to the people.


Deified, with the extra 'i' in there, means they were elevated to godhood after death. =)

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Mental image of the Ladies gossiping at the salon: Check! =D

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Em hotep!

I'm kind of surprised that no one's landed specifically on the oh well, it's not like she has a choice response yet - when there've been other threads on non-ideal situations, it seems like the general consensus is kind of that Netjer understands, and will work with you if necessary (and your situation isn't one that I'd see as being total spatial impurity - it's one specific issue that, aside from the smell, doesn't 'contaminate' the entire environment so that there's no way at all of protecting the shrine from the effects). There are some Names I can think of Who might say, "I don't like this, I would like my shrine to be somewhere else," if you were divined as a child of or devoted specifically to that Name, but particularly if you're a beginner, I wouldn't expect that to happen as long as you're showing appropriate consideration otherwise.

I know I've seen other threads where it's mentioned that children and animals are basically exempt from purity requirements, so that it doesn't totally muck up your shrine time if your cat/toddler/whatever happens to wander in while you're doing Senut. Is it possible for you to, say, have the catbox on the opposite side of the room from the altar? Even if it's a small seperation (and I definitely wouldn't have them right next to each other), you've at least got a sense of it being there - you'll be able to cross to space between when you're going into/withdrawing from the altar.

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[PUBLIC] Kemetic Orthodox Q&A / Re: A Question on Temples
« on: November 05, 2010, 08:28:39 pm »
Quote from: Senneferet
but would see it more as a social activity rather than a religious gathering like mass.


And this is why I refuse to attend any sort of religious service, regardless of my views on that religion (as I'm occasionally asked to please, please come to Christian services with various people - my issues aren't with Jehovah, they're with church) - even when it is geared toward worship, it's still a social activity, and I'm not good with those. I've been told I don't have to be 'good with people' to go to church (presumably, I just need to go to be 'good with God'), but I'm an agoraphobe, and there isn't a lot that's more tortorous to me than being surrounded by people who are going to make a point of noticing me, make a point of trying to get me involved, want to be friendly and huggy and - No. Just no.

So even if there was a Kemetic gathering local to me, I wouldn't attend - at least not right now, and probably not anytime soon. I'm not able to deal with the social aspect, and from what I've heard, our gods seem to be very intense in person - and to be honest, I don't think I'm at a place, emotionally, where I can deal with that either. I had to quite attending even the chats for about the same reason - it's just too much, too overwhelming. I'm okay with private devotion in my own way.

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[PUBLIC] Netjer (Our Gods & Goddesses) / Re: Search/Ra/Ram
« on: October 12, 2010, 06:32:34 am »
Quote from: Tanebet
the first God coming to my mind when thinking of the midnight sun would be Sokar or Sokar-Wesir

I think it was in the Amduat where Ra merged with Wesir


I'm almost certain Hemet said more-or-less that exact thing to me once - I don't remember the exact conversation now or if I have it logged somewhere, but I think it came out of me finding Ra as a Beloved to be odd given what a 'sun' person I am not - her 'try looking at it from this perspective and see if it helps' point was that Sokar-Wesir was Ra, Ra during His journey through the Duat (and, presumably, that Ra was therefore just Sokar-Wesir on the other side). And then my brain got all breaky. ^.^

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