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[PUBLIC] Kemetic Orthodox Q&A / Re: Is Homosexuality Against Ma'at?
« on: June 22, 2010, 02:14:31 pm »
I think that's a good quote- and I think it's often true.

Part of the reason I don't trust things like UPG is because you can never tell when someone is being honest about their gods, or placing their own biases onto their image of the gods.


I guess I was hoping that perhaps someone here would have an answer before I bugged her. I try to be very selective in what I ask, since I know she's a busy person.


Yeah, that's why I wanted clarification... but only one person really addressed that.


I'm not saying that you can't work with gods outside of your RPD, however, in theory- *any* god can be your parent. And to have a ritual that has such emphasis on it, to only have a select few deities be "allowed" to be recognized... just seems... unfair?


Like I said, I must be a glutton for punishment. Me and Aset have been working together for quite a while now. I honestly don't get what is so scary (same goes with Setekh... he's not scary).

To me, that's a shame and a flaw that only certain deities can be utilized. I work with, or at least assoc. with, some obscure gods. And the fact that they may not show up in an RPD because she doesn't have a layout for them would make me sad.


I can't currently find where it was posted in this thread, but it's my understanding that when the RPD is done, the shells are tossed, and then a list of forms is consulted to match the form of shells to the proper deity, yes?

If this is correct, then is there a complete list of ALL deities of AE? Or is only a portion of deities available to be utilized in an RPD? And has there ever been a case where the shells have fallen in a non-recognizable pattern?


[PUBLIC] Kemet Today - Rev. Tamara's Blog & Podcast / Re: A Word on RPD
« on: February 01, 2010, 06:58:34 pm »
I suppose I'm used to that sort of regime. I've been working with Setekh for a while now, and as the weeks/months progressed with him, she slowly has been making herself far more known in my life. I'm not sure what she wants- but she's there. But she doesn't scare me. I guess I'm just used to is XD


[PUBLIC] Kemet Today - Rev. Tamara's Blog & Podcast / Re: A Word on RPD
« on: February 01, 2010, 05:35:29 pm »
Why are so many seemingly afraid of Aset? Any particular reason?


[PUBLIC] Kemet Today - Rev. Tamara's Blog & Podcast / Re: A Word on RPD
« on: February 01, 2010, 01:58:30 pm »
Quote from: Sedjemes

Oh I can attest to how that would NOT work here. Aset was nowhere on my questionnaire, not even as a "maybe." Neither was Ra for that matter. Months after my RPD I learned that many folks back then snickered as I happily extolled about how I was probably the child of this or that deity--never Aset.

So, no cheat sheet that I can ever see. Nope nope. By the way, I am SO an Aset child ;) I wonder how I ever missed it. Ten years later haha.

Yeah, I'm slowly starting to see that- as I read more about people's experiences with the RPD, etc.


[PUBLIC] Kemet Today - Rev. Tamara's Blog & Podcast / Re: A Word on RPD
« on: February 01, 2010, 11:46:34 am »
Quote from: Kheper

  Could you imagine how much energy would be shooting around if ALL the Netjer were in the same building at the same time, not to mention overlapping spiritual presences? They would be replacing all the lightbubs in the building for the next week. Hence the reason for the questionaire and why it's prudent to do it this way, rather than invite ALL the Netjer.

I have to disagree with this. I commonly ask the Netjer (as a whole) to help me with divination, meditation, etc. Granted, I'm no Nisut, but all of netjer is all of netjer- no matter how you slice it. Seems to me, if the soul purpose of the questionnaire was for her to ask the specific gods of the person to come forth, that should could more or less say 'Hey netjer, I have so and so here- whichever of you wants to have a say in this, do so" and the same general gist would be there.

I do like some of the other reasonings proposed here about the need for the questionnaire. It used to make me raise my eyebrow, knowing that you write your wanted deities on a paper, and gave it to her- like it was a cheat sheet. Glad to see that there are other potential purposes for said sheet.


[PUBLIC] Kemet Today - Rev. Tamara's Blog & Podcast / Re: A Word on RPD
« on: January 31, 2010, 12:19:25 pm »
I have a question, and I'm not trying to be disrespectful, it just happened to cross my mind, and I wondered the answer.

The RPD is supposed to tell you who your parents are, yes? Which they are your parents because they fashioned your ba, right? (making sure I have the basics correct). Since the AE didn't have this ritual back in their time- who fashioned their bas? And how did they figure out their parents/ba creators? Since it wasn't in this fashion. Is the ba creation thing literal, or more metaphorical?

Hope that wasn't too jumbled... I'm out of it right now.


[PUBLIC] Kemet Today - Rev. Tamara's Blog & Podcast / Re: A Word on RPD
« on: January 30, 2010, 04:00:42 pm »
Quote from: Kheper

Of course you are free to believe as you like.  You do not accept what you were told.  So be it.  Others have went through the RPD and had similar feelings and yet after they accepted what they were told they considered it and looked within and saw the truth of the matter.  It didn't change any pre-existing relationship they had with a given Name (from their point of view) but merely added new concepts and ideas they had never occurred to them when they accepted the outcome of their RPD.

Perhaps I'm wrong, but as I've read through this thread, it seems to me that she's not necessarily saying the RPD was wrong, but that it was wrong to be told that her prior relationship with Set was now null and void.

Maybe I'm misreading, but that is my impression. Not the results of the RPD as much as being told she was wrong for feeling she has a relationship with Setekh.


Ha ha, Min on his lighter. That's kinky.

[PUBLIC] Kemetic Orthodox Q&A / Re: Heka/Magic
« on: January 10, 2010, 05:56:28 pm »
For myself, not overly. I have no relationship with Heka, and actually know very little about Heka (the god). As for practicing heka itself, I try to practice in what I say and do, but don't actively perform rituals or anything of that sort. I never really saw the need, because no form of "magic" has ever really done much for me in the end (save for protective/healing magics).

So yeah... that's about the best I can answer. I'm trying to learn more about it, so that perhaps I could begin to work with heka better.

Quote from: yosef1986
Em Hotep!

Devo may I say as someone that practices Buddhism? (And Tahekerut has a good point). It varies by which school of Buddhism, since every school is different. Zen tends to be more Atheistic, Theravada tends to be more middle ground, wheras Mahayana and Tibetan Buddhism are highly Theistic. I practice Mahayana, and we have a belief in the Buddha as a venerable ancestor, various national ancestors of China, and even the divine feminine Quan Yin. I would say that the general premise of Buddhism is that god belief or lack thereof have little to do with how good a person's deeds are, but cultural forms of Buddhism are definitely Theistic. Hope that helps. For me Buddhism and Kemetic Orthodoxy go hand in hand well.


P.S: The Buddha himself was Theistic, he prayed to Brahma, and had a belief in the Hindu gods

That helps a bit. When I first learned about Buddhism in college, I was told it was a theistic religion. But as I got older, many people said it was a more atheistic religion. Good to know that there are different sects of the religion- some with, and some without deities and the like.


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