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[PUBLIC] Welcome! / Re: Another newbie!
« on: July 02, 2015, 08:55:05 am »
Em Hotep, Elspeth!

There isn't a CUUPS in my smallish city, but there is a U.U. church.  They welcome all seekers, so I'm glad to have this local group of good people.

May you find the beginner's class very rewarding!


"O thou beautiful Being, thou dost renew thyself in thy season in the form of the Disk, within thy mother Hathor." (Nakht's Hymn to Ra)

 :D  8)  Dua Hethert!


[PUBLIC] Welcome! / Re: Hello all and first experiences
« on: June 28, 2015, 12:51:06 am »
Em Hotep, Rex!

It's a gradual process as we turn from one path to another.  A sometimes slow awakening, occasionally abrupt awakening, but eventually things become more clear.  The Netjeru are very patient with us, though.


Em Hotep, Jesse L,

I've got a website of gathers of the ancient imagery of the god Set:

One of Set's ancient epithets is "Great of Strength", and so I turn to Set for strength.

I'm in the process of gathering imagery of Hethert, who from what I can gather from the Egyptologists, is generally regarded as having the ability to transform into Sekhmet.  There's just so much variety to the ways Hethert was depicted.  She's a loving goddess, full of joy and loving dance and music. 

Musical instruments such as sistra and clappers are decorated with Hethert's face:

Bleeker quotes an excerpt from a "song sung by the seven Hathors to the great goddess Hathor":

"We laud thee with delightful songs,
For thou art the mistress of jubilation,
The mistress of music, the queen of harp-playing,
The lady of the dance,
The mistress of the chorus-dance, the queen of wreath-weaving."7
Goddess of Dance, Music and Song, from Hathor and Thoth: Two Key Figures of the Ancient Egyptian Religion, by Claas Jouco Bleeker, (Page 53)

Another excerpt from Bleeker's book:

"From time immemorial, and particularly in later ages, Hathor was surnamed "the Gold", "the Golden One" ([nub]).1 Nowhere is an explanation of this epitheton given. There are two possible reasons for giving Hathor these titles. Gold, the noblest of metals, prompts the thought of immortality, eternity. [Nub] is therefore an apt qualification for a goddess whose imposing personality and inexhaustible strength give the impression that she defies temporariness and transience. Perhaps Hathor was given this epithet because gold glitters and because Hathor is described as a radiant figure in the texts. Thus a hymn speaks of "the epiphany of her beauty."2 It is said of the deceased "thou shinest like Hathor."3 Elsewhere the following picture is drawn of the dazzling beauty of Hathor: "The beautiful, the lovely one, who stands at the head of the 'House of the Beautiful'; the gods turn their heads away in order to see her (better)".4 (Page 26)

Here's a quote from Alison Roberts about Hathor and Ma'at:

"Of great importance too is the association of 'vitality' (nefer) with Hathor and Maat, the two solar goddesses intimately connected with the throat and heart.1 Amun-Re is said to 'wear Maat' like an amulet at his throat, she rests on his breast. And guarding this vital region of his body she becomes his nourishing food:

"Your food is Maat, your drink is Maat
Your bread is Maat, your beer is Maat2

"Nurturing the vital life of the solar god, Maat manifests in the nutritive throat region when food offerings are brought. So, when bringing the god offerings, the king invokes the goddess who assists the ingestion of food:

"Receive Maat so that
   you may satisfy your heart.
This your Meret-goddess,
   who does not leave you.
The throat is before you every day
   so that you may live from her.3

"But as both are daughters of Re, Maat cannot be separated from Hathor. The guiding influence of Maat needs the energizing vitality and life-blood of Hathor to maintain her way of the world." - Alison Roberts, My Heart My Mother, Northgate Publishers 2000, (Pages 122-123)

Hethert has a different sort of strength, of "energizing vitality" than Set does.  Perhaps Set's strength is more "endurance" and raw strength, while Hethert gets her strength from "feeding" on Ma'at, so that Ma'at and Hethert strengthen each other.  That which is beautiful, and true and just gives Hethert joy, and therein is her strength.  "The mistress of jubilation", what else can I say, but "Dua Hethert!" :)


[PUBLIC] Welcome! / Re: Em hotep, I'm Aelita.
« on: June 07, 2015, 08:33:38 am »
Welcome, Aelita!

I grew up in similar circumstances actually; I went to a Baptist church until I could decide for myself that I wouldn't go and I was agnostic on and off for a few years. :) We're pretty relaxed here, so you are welcome to explore to your heart's content and ask anything that is on your mind about who we are and what we do. There is also the Kemetic Interfaith Network that includes more throughly other Kemetic paths (, however it's a bit quieter than here.

I too grew up in a Baptist Christian family, and went through an atheistic phase. 

May your explorations be very rewarding, Aelita!

Also, I want to correct that URL, the Kemetic link is:
and the forums are here:


I've found Ancient Egyptian Hieroglyphs: A Practical Guide - A Step-by-Step Approach to Learning Ancient Egyptian Hieroglyphs. by Janice Kamrin quite useful:

My copy has a different cover, with an Ibis bird (Djehuty) on a standard.  It was put out by the American University in Cairo, while the linked version is by Publisher Harry N. Abrams

In her "further reading" section, even she recommends the Collier and Manley book.  :)

Between the Budge dictionary, Wilkinson's "Reading Egyptian Art", the Faulkner dictionary, I've been muddling along.  We're really due for a much better dictionary, than one from 1920 and one from 1962.  I hope when it does come out, it doesn't cost 600 bucks and has an index.

I just found this site, with hieroglyphic examples, which is excellent for referencing while drawing your own:



Thank you, Temseni, for this book recommendation.  I've seen this recommended often, so I've finally sent for this.  I've been busy searching out every thing Hethert related.  Some stelas have prayers to her and other things.  Bierbrier's book of Hieroglyphic texts (part 12), doesn't translate all.  So I'm muddling through.  Hopefully this book will ease my struggles.

Senebty, all!


[PUBLIC] Welcome! / Re: Excited,possibly over enthusiastic newbie!
« on: May 04, 2015, 01:25:04 am »
Em Hotep, Noof!

Welcome! Enjoy your journey!



[PUBLIC] Prayer Requests / Earth Day Prayers
« on: April 22, 2015, 08:18:04 am »
Blessings to all those working on behalf of the Earth's environment, nature conservancy and the beautiful diversity of its critters. They are working to ensure a better world for us all. The air we breathe, the water we drink, we have only one home. 

May the Netjeru strengthen their efforts.  May the Netjeru strengthen their Kas, that they continue their efforts with renewed energy.


Joan (aka Meresankh)

« on: March 29, 2015, 06:40:41 pm »
I always enjoy seeing everyone's shrine photos.  Post RPD, it's time for me to have a shrine renovation :) :

Too many photos and links perhaps, but documenting it is part of the fun!



SOON!!! Will I have trouble sleeping tonight, as I did last night?

Soon! (Yes, excited) :D


Em Hotep!

Do you live in a region with a hot climate, Gleb?  Yuma can get awfully hot, 122F (50C), so naturally I find myself fleeing to the shadows except for the rare times it's cold here.


[PUBLIC] Netjer (Our Gods & Goddesses) / Re: White Cobra/guardian?
« on: February 11, 2015, 08:08:02 am »
A little bit off-topic, but while looking for the source of this image (which is CESRAS Russian Academy), I found the mother-load of Hethert images.  One to tease:

Meanwhile, back to the white cobra, Cairo museum CAI JE29637:
A full size image is available at this link.


Em hotep!

I was wandering around online looking for pictures of Mom and happened upon this:

I can't tell enough about the context to say Who it is, but I saw the "white snake" out of the corner of my eye and thought of you. :)


[PUBLIC] Welcome! / Re: Greetings
« on: January 31, 2015, 08:44:32 am »

We've had some discussions here lately about Hethert as the Lady of Trees. Specifically, in ancient texts She's called Lady of the Sycamore. There are often depictions of Her with a tree or as a cow coming out of a papyrus thicket. She's also associated with foreign lands, and Hemet has said it's perfectly acceptable to associate Her with more forested locations.

Welcome, Leuans!

Yes, the museum in Florence, Italy has a stela depicting Hathor (Hethert) as a tree.  The identifying glyphs are clear on this one:

I love the details on this one.  The recipient of Hethert's blessings has her little Ba bird there, too.

(link to photographer):

Joan (aka Meresankh)

[PUBLIC] Netjer (Our Gods & Goddesses) / Re: New Names
« on: January 24, 2015, 11:09:24 am »
I recently learned of the god, Igai, via Google search.  He was another god of the oases and linked with Ash, if not Set.

Quoting from the article linked above:
"Third Intermediate and Late Periods

A fragmentary sandstone stela of a priest of Seth named Khai, Stela JE 52478, was found by locals in the vicinity of Mut in 1928 and is now housed in the Cairo Museum.[37] The top two lines of text are missing, as is the upper part of the stela which would have shown a pictorial relief. At present it measures 56 cm high, 80 cm wide and has a depth of 20.5 cm. It is carved with eight lines of poorly-executed cursive hieroglyphs that are divided by irregular horizontal lines. The text, which identifies the owner, Khai, as 'true of voice…', indicates that it was a funerary offering stela. It most likely originated from a cemetery close to Mut el-Kharab and a palaeographic analysis enables it to be dated to Dynasty 23.[38]

Much of the text is missing and, as a result, it is impossible to gain a full understanding of the document. Perhaps the most intriguing aspect concerns the phrase '… an offering for the ka of the scribe, the priest of Seth, Khai, of the house of Igai […]. He says: “I am a servant of Seth…” '.[39] Although the context is ambiguous, it is evident that Khai was a priest of Seth and, significantly, he was also associated with an as yet undiscovered temple in this region that was dedicated to Igai.[40] It also demonstrates a close relationship between the cults of Seth and Igai in Dakhleh in the Third Intermediate Period. "


Joan (aka Meresankh)

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