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[PUBLIC] Welcome! / Re: Igniting the flame
« on: January 02, 2021, 01:49:05 pm »
Blessings and welcome. 

I would recommend you learn about and try to get to know Khonsu of the Knives as well.  One of the roles that Khonsu has taken on is that of a mind-healer (mental illnesses and such).

One thing I would like you to have a clear and unclouded knowledge of is this:

Our Gods will NEVER ask us to do anything that is against our own best interest, or is harmful to others.  They may (and do) push us into uncomfortable waters sometimes as They help us grow and develop, but never never never into harmful actions.  If you hear voices claiming to be any of our Netjer and telling you to do something against your own health, well-being, or safety - STOP.  Evaluate your mental state. Speak to your mental health team.

Blessings and Senebty,

Tahai

*Senebty means 'health', and is often used in equivalent to the English 'good bye'
Thank you, Tahai! I've been feeling a pull toward Khonsu lately, but I was wondering if he was the right deity for me.

The voices I hear tend to answer my thoughts or comment on my moods so if I'm thinking about Netjer they will attempt to respond in that way. But they also respond to mundane things as well so I'm just going to ignore any voices that I hear. I really prefer more subtle communication with the gods anyway. I love receiving messages that I can put together like a puzzle. I trust that if the gods really want to communicate with me, they're not limited to words and emotions.

I will keep in mind that Netjer will never force me into harmful actions because the voices don't exactly have my best interests at heart.

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[PUBLIC] Kemetic Orthodox Q&A / Re: WANT TO SEE YOUR SHRINE PICTURES
« on: January 01, 2021, 07:06:18 pm »

That is so beautiful, Senuwierneheh! I'm so amazed by everyone's shrines. This is how mine looks right now:
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AtIWbyvZGzIkp0rHVFyLKoIMYJOe
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AtIWbyvZGzIkp0uG0IL0OaNUI8fg
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AtIWbyvZGzIkp0ntZywUA2NhMcbV

It's on my computer desk so I can always see it. Sekhmet's statue is in the middle, Set's statue is on the left, Thoth’s statue is on the right, Nut's statue is on the far left, and Bastet's box is on the far right. The flame sculptures represent Sekhmet's fire aspect. I'm going to purchase an end table for devotionals/spells and a glass tower to display more statues. I want another Nut statue and one that represents her and Geb. I only feel this fluidity with her statues at the moment. I also want to include artwork on the wall above my shrine.

I simply meditate and speak directly to the gods for now. I want to incorporate offerings soon and write more formal prayers in the future. I’m not poetic by any means though!

I was so terrified of putting the statues up at first because my family members would not approve. But I loved Sekhmet's statue so much I couldn't bear to keep it hidden in the closet. It was as if she wanted to be out. So far no one has asked about the statues and I hope it stays that way. I'm going for an Egyptian theme if anyone asks. :P


very pretty. the way you describe the fiery side of Sekhmet reminds me of Sekhmet-as-Nesret, the Great Flame.
Thank you so much, Rev. Ma'atnofret! :) I primarily worship Sekhmet in that aspect as a fire goddess of destruction.

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It's not the most ideal but as long as you're not a minor, you should be fine! There are definitely people in the House in similar situations to yourself. Ideally you'd need to be able to have a physical practice, like maintaining shrines and performing Senut, so that may be an obstacle (if you need to keep stuff hidden) but there are plenty of (discreet) ways around that, too, until you're in a better living situation. As long as your living situation wouldn't be at risk and there is no danger to your person.  :)
Hello Amarantheia, thank you for replying! At the moment, my shrine is on display and it hasn't really attracted any attention so far (https://1drv.ms/u/s!AtIWbyvZGzIkp0rHVFyLKoIMYJOe). I want to expand my Egyptian theme so that the statues blend in with the rest of the room. As long as my family doesn't give me any flack, I'm fine with my living situation.

Ma'at is a concept that ultimately, we as mere mortals can only do our best to work towards. We don't know for sure what is or isn't ma'at, though in many cases we can take a very good guess!

What I'm meaning here is, some might say potentially disrupting your family life goes against ma'at. Others might say that forcing someone to live under the shackles of an oppressive family is against ma'at. Who is right? We don't really know.

What we do know is that KO has rules to minimise the chances that someone will end up in a very poor situation (say, kicked out by their guardians with no means of supporting themselves) as a result of the temple accepting their membership request. The temple does not wish to be the cause for such trauma and difficulty in an applicant's life. But those rules centre around you being a financial dependent and/or a minor. If neither of those things apply, the temple basically considers that the ramifications are yours to consider. It would be up to you in that case to decide whether you felt applying to join the beginner's class was the right thing for your life.

The same is true of your mental health really. We have many members who have many different kinds of mental illnesses and experience many different symptoms, and as far as I've seen it's left to those individuals to determine what's best for them in terms of pursuing their faith. If there ever appeared to be a severe risk to someone's well-being, that might change, but I haven't personally ever seen this happen.

~Isha
Thank you for your insight, Tai'awepwawet. My family would be taking more of a hit if they kicked me out as I pay the rent! We really do need each other but I've lived alone a few months ago and I was fine. I just didn’t want to join Kemetic Orthodoxy under false pretenses. I would fully accept the consequences of my decision. My illness has made things difficult, but I’ve been working through it. Setting up my shrine has really helped give me peace and perspective.

I'm not a member of the house and so do not speak for them. I did notice that you say your parents live with you. Do you own the home your are living in or are at least responsible for paying rent?
If yes, then surely your parents should respect your religious choices (mental health problems or no - I have had trouble as well). If they are under your roof then they should abide by your rules?
I'm probably opening up a huge can of worms for you here. It's just that I had parents who disrespected my choices and my rules even once I had moved into my own home. It's very frustrating to have to dance to other peoples tune, especially regarding something as important as your spiritual path.
Thank you for responding, Senneferet. I am responsible for paying rent. My mental illness started to really show itself when I began exploring my spiritual path so that is a point of concern. I really don't need them to respect my religious choices as this would be impossible, but I just don't want them confronting me about my spiritual path. It is frustrating because you feel like you can’t be your true self. I just wish I had found this path before my mental breakdown so it wouldn't be a problem.

First, hello!

Second, a reminder - though I am a member of the House of Netjer, I do not speak for the temple, the religion, or anyone but myself.

This is a tough situation to be in, and there are no easy answers. I have lived briefly, as an adult, with my dad who forbad me to do anything Kemetic in his house and demanded that I go to church on sundays or live on the street. I had been a member of the temple for almost 10 years at that point. It cause a huge fight that ended in a stalemate (I agreed not to set up my shrine for the 2 months I lived there, and I wasn't required to go to church, but mostly because I was working most sunday mornings). That fight and the anger it brought about didn't get dealt with for years afterwards.

Though I don't know you and your situation, I obviously don't want anything like that to happen to you or anyone else. Anger and resentment is not a healthy thing between any people, but especially within a family.

All that said, the beginner's course is designed to be a "step 0" of membership in the temple. No commitment, no cost, just a bunch of knowledge that introduces you to the concepts of how the temple and faith are organized, how we interact with Netjer and our Akhu, etc. It's the kind of stuff you would learn growing up in the culture (if we had a localized community of practitioners).

No matter what you wish to do, though, I do advise talking with them. You can't hide part of yourself successfully for long, and I agree, it's not within ma'at to do so. Invite your parents to join you in the beginner's course, to see what you see, to assuage their fears about cults, demons, etc. Like I said above, there is no commitment to the temple to take the beginner's course, and quite a few parents, spouses, and friends of members have done so.

Another but of info I've given out to others in the past. There's no rush to take the beginner's course and become a member. The faith isn't going anywhere, Netjer isn't going anywhere, the love they have for us won't fade. Waiting sucks, but sometimes it is necessary.

I wish you all the luck and peace of figuring out what to do.
Thank you so much for sharing, Padjaiemweru. I am so sorry about the situation with your father. That is one of my worst nightmares to be stifled and forced to practice another religion. I hope you have been able to heal since then and make peace.

When I was about to move in with my brother, he told me he didn't want me practicing (I wasn't Kemetic at the time though) and it broke my heart. Fast forward to the future and he's a real estate agent and we're about to move into a house owned by him. It makes me extremely uncomfortable but I'm pushing forward for the sake of my family. I just don't want to be confronted about my spiritual path and have it turn into this huge fight. I don't really want to discuss my spiritual path with my family though. I just feel like I want something that's mine and mine alone if that makes any sense. Thank you again for your advice. It really does help me. I think I want to consider joining the beginner’s class after I read through everything again. :)

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[PUBLIC] Welcome! / Re: Another joins the ranks
« on: January 01, 2021, 02:22:13 pm »
Wecome Forge! I'm new here too. :)

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[PUBLIC] Welcome! / Re: Igniting the flame
« on: January 01, 2021, 02:14:44 pm »
Thanks Morgana1860, Nix, and Asetmehheri! :)

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[PUBLIC] Kemetic Orthodox Q&A / Re: WANT TO SEE YOUR SHRINE PICTURES
« on: January 01, 2021, 02:09:33 pm »
While visiting my shrine early this evening, I noticed the way the sun was kissing Sekhmet's statue.  I think She didn't mind when I paused my meditation to grab the camera:

http://joanannlansberry.com/journal/arch2020/20200918b.jpg

The red ribbon is from regnal year 25.....
(I might add a white ribbon to it....)

Senebty,
Neheh...
That is so beautiful, Senuwierneheh! I'm so amazed by everyone's shrines. This is how mine looks right now:
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AtIWbyvZGzIkp0rHVFyLKoIMYJOe
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AtIWbyvZGzIkp0uG0IL0OaNUI8fg
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AtIWbyvZGzIkp0ntZywUA2NhMcbV

It's on my computer desk so I can always see it. Sekhmet's statue is in the middle, Set's statue is on the left, Thoth’s statue is on the right, Nut's statue is on the far left, and Bastet's box is on the far right. The flame sculptures represent Sekhmet's fire aspect. I'm going to purchase an end table for devotionals/spells and a glass tower to display more statues. I want another Nut statue and one that represents her and Geb. I only feel this fluidity with her statues at the moment. I also want to include artwork on the wall above my shrine.

I simply meditate and speak directly to the gods for now. I want to incorporate offerings soon and write more formal prayers in the future. I’m not poetic by any means though!

I was so terrified of putting the statues up at first because my family members would not approve. But I loved Sekhmet's statue so much I couldn't bear to keep it hidden in the closet. It was as if she wanted to be out. So far no one has asked about the statues and I hope it stays that way. I'm going for an Egyptian theme if anyone asks. :P

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[PUBLIC] Welcome! / Re: Igniting the flame
« on: December 31, 2020, 02:42:34 pm »
Welcome!

My main piece of advice to anyone who comes here is just to keep an open mind, and to share or contribute however you feel able or inspired, because a community is only bettered by the sharing of knowledge and experiences from a wide variety of people :)

~ Nesi

Thank you for the advice, Nesiwepwawet. :)

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[PUBLIC] Kemetic Orthodox Q&A / Re: How do the Names of Netjer Reach Out?
« on: November 27, 2020, 09:05:41 pm »
I tend to hear inner voices so I was uncomfortable when I started hearing Netjer. I feel that gentle nudge as they pass through my consciousness and the words feel like they are being placed in my mind rather than coming from it. When I was feeling troubled by this, I asked Sekhmet to fill me with her essence, but it didn't feel like partial or full possession. She just spoke more directly to me, allaying my concerns.

Surprisingly, I don't dream about Netjer or at least I don't remember doing so. I did see a gold Egyptian artifact in a recent dream though. I mainly have visions of Sekhmet in meditation which sometimes become full fledged encounters. I also have visions of her priestesses and worshippers, usually women but I did see a man dancing with a female partner once.

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I'm a newbie who is considering to join the beginner's class. My parents live with me, I'm not dependent on them (I make enough to support myself), but they would absolutely disapprove of me joining any pagan religion. Especially since my mental illness really started to show itself when I began exploring my spiritual path. (Those inner voices have no power over me now though.) Would it be against Ma'at for me to pursue Kemetic Orthodoxy? I am developing my practice but I feel the need for community and I wish to serve a higher purpose.

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[PUBLIC] Welcome! / Re: Hello everyone
« on: November 27, 2020, 04:37:26 pm »
Hello my name is Jessica I'm from Rio de Janeiro Brazil, sorry for any typos but I'm using google translator rs
I am loving this forum, and I hope to learn more about kemetic and Aset that came to me in a dream.

Hello Kynha! We have the same first name and I'm new here too. :) I hope Aset continues to make her presence known in your life.

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[PUBLIC] Welcome! / Re: Igniting the flame
« on: November 27, 2020, 04:32:44 pm »
Em hotep and welcome!

I am also drawn to Sekhmet, and deal with mental illness, both in the long term. I hope you consider the beginner's class, as you learn a lot and honestly, it's a great experience

Lauren

Thank you, Yinepuemsaes!

Thank you for posting Lauren. I don't feel so alone now. I am currently considering the beginner's class.

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[PUBLIC] Welcome! / Re: Igniting the flame
« on: November 26, 2020, 11:30:10 am »
Em hotep & welcome!

Interesting that you've broke your silence in this year. Like Asethepetwi said, we currently have Sekhmet-Nesret specifically as our deity of the year. The oracle about that, in case you haven't seen/read it: http://www.nisut.org/2020/08/aset-oracle-year-28.html

Thank you for welcoming me everyone! :)

And thank you for sharing the link, Bawysudjawi. It was an enjoyable read that really helps me on my path. I'm happy that this Her year and I hope it draw even more followers to Her.

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[PUBLIC] Welcome! / Re: Igniting the flame
« on: November 26, 2020, 12:33:58 am »
Em hotep and welcome!

Thank you, Temimensenu! :)

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[PUBLIC] Welcome! / Re: Igniting the flame
« on: November 25, 2020, 11:19:52 pm »
Hello Asethepetwi!
Thank you for responding. I definitely want to connect with Sekhmet’s healer aspect. Her fire aspect is just so prominent in my worship of her. I didn’t know there was a connection between Renenutet and Serqet, it makes me want to learn even more about Serqet. I’m just fascinated by Nut’s depiction in art, she’s so beautiful. I have this memory of going outside one night and the sky was cerulean blue and the stars were sparkling. I remember feeling uncomfortable and quickly going back inside. I don’t know if this memory is connected to her or not and I don’t have visual hallucinations (thank goodness). It happened years ago and I just remembered it.

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[PUBLIC] Welcome! / Igniting the flame
« on: November 25, 2020, 09:10:12 pm »
Hello everyone! I have been browsing the boards for a while and I decided to join.

Some background on me:
I am 34, mixed with Black and Filipino, employed, and living with mental illness. The latter makes having a spiritual path very difficult, especially since the voices in my head use this as an opportunity to manipulate and torment me. Naturally, I was mistrustful when I started hearing Sekhmet's voice again. But my daily devotionals are improving communication and strengthening my connection to Her in the process. It is just challenging because I am learning and developing rituals at the same time! I get inspiration every day and I feel like I need to do something with it.

I mainly worship Sekhmet as a goddess of fire, destruction, and blood. I want to explore Her warrior and healer aspects in the future. I also feel a connection to Renenutet, Nut, and Thoth.

That is it about me for now, any suggestions and advice are very welcome. :)

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