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Author Topic: Glossary Question...  (Read 7858 times)

Glossary Question...
« on: September 23, 2010, 12:07:28 am »
Admittedly I am BRAND spankin' new to Kemetic Orthodoxy.  I was wondering if there was a glossary to some of the words and phrases that are used commonly.  I know on Kemet.org there is a glossary of God/dess names but it would be infinitely helpful if I could bookmark a page of phrases and words that are commonly used.

I have found that I am trying to translate some of the posts and responses and I would like to make sure that my translations are correct. :D
Daughter of Ptah and Bast
Beloved of Nebthet-Nit-Seshat and Heru-wer

Re: Glossary Question...
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2010, 12:13:43 am »
Em-Hotep-WindWeaver,

What exactly are you trying to translate?  If you send me a message of the words or phrases you are trying to understand, I will gladly translate them for you... I can translate from Egyptian to English or English to Egyptian; whatever you are looking for. :)
Ne'sip - Thii - Mu - Pah - Ma'at
(Never Wander From The Truth)

Hk'hk - Mu - Th'n - Ib - Gh'ert - Netjer
(Keep Netjer In Your Heart Always)

Nin - Mesin'i - I'usi - Sa'ahu...
(No-one is born a sage) - IOPH

Re: Glossary Question...
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2010, 12:19:40 am »
Just for example I was just reading Reheri's post on the 42 purifications... and words like "isfet" and "gereg" were the two that I first noticed.  
Daughter of Ptah and Bast
Beloved of Nebthet-Nit-Seshat and Heru-wer

Re: Glossary Question...
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2010, 12:27:43 am »
Em-Hotep,

Well, the word Isfet means chaos or evil; this is the opposite of Ma'at, which means truth (as well as being a goddess...of truth.) Gereg means 'lie'.  

Anything else you can think of off hand? Glad to help.
Ne'sip - Thii - Mu - Pah - Ma'at
(Never Wander From The Truth)

Hk'hk - Mu - Th'n - Ib - Gh'ert - Netjer
(Keep Netjer In Your Heart Always)

Nin - Mesin'i - I'usi - Sa'ahu...
(No-one is born a sage) - IOPH

Re: Glossary Question...
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2010, 12:48:39 am »
Not off hand... But I am sure I will post as I have them.  Thank you for the information.  I did know Ma'at, and I had deduced that Isfet meant something along those lines.  I would never have guessed that gereg meant "lie".   Thanks again!
Daughter of Ptah and Bast
Beloved of Nebthet-Nit-Seshat and Heru-wer

Re: Glossary Question...
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2010, 12:52:45 am »
Your very welcome WindWeaver,

Again, if anything comes to mind, don't hesitate to ask. Also, feel free to send me a PM if desire instead of waiting for a reply in the forum. :) Again, your very welcome.
Ne'sip - Thii - Mu - Pah - Ma'at
(Never Wander From The Truth)

Hk'hk - Mu - Th'n - Ib - Gh'ert - Netjer
(Keep Netjer In Your Heart Always)

Nin - Mesin'i - I'usi - Sa'ahu...
(No-one is born a sage) - IOPH

Re: Glossary Question...
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2010, 12:55:28 am »
I just may take you up on that! ;)
Daughter of Ptah and Bast
Beloved of Nebthet-Nit-Seshat and Heru-wer

Offline Tanebet

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Re: Glossary Question...
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2010, 01:02:24 am »
Em Hotep WindWeaver *henu*,

you find a list with frequently used terms here

http://www.kemet.org/terms_list.html

Senebty
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« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 pm by Tanebet »
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Re: Glossary Question...
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2010, 03:42:27 am »
Thankyou!
Daughter of Ptah and Bast
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Re: Glossary Question...
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2010, 07:00:27 am »
Quote from: Tanebet
Em Hotep WindWeaver *henu*,

you find a list with frequently used terms here

http://www.kemet.org/terms_list.html

Senebty
Tanebet


Em hotep Tanebet. Thankyou so much for the link. As a beginner myself it is invaluable!  :)
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Offline Niheri

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Re: Glossary Question...
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2010, 05:48:45 am »
I struggled for ages with "UPG" that people are always mentioning. Finally found out it means "Unproven Personal Gnosis"! The posts make so much more sense now! :).
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Re: Glossary Question...
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2010, 08:55:04 am »
The term UPG has always bothered me.  Gnosis, by its very nature, is unverifiable and personal.
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𓃀𓎂𓀭𓏏𓎡𓈖𓁐
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Meryt Heru-wer her Amun-Ra her Bast

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Re: Glossary Question...
« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2010, 10:06:37 am »
back in the day, UPG used to be contrasted with substantiated personal gnosis (e.g., deciding to give Sekhmet beer out of nowhere, then running across the myth) and unsubstantiated shared gnosis (e.g., everybody spontaneously giving Yinepu tootsie rolls). these terms seem to have fallen out of fashion, though, so upg does seem redundant.
ubenetsenu - "two appear shining"
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meryt Wesir her Serqet-Aset

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Offline Seshagemseger

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Re: Glossary Question...
« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2010, 11:18:45 am »
I agree Tek, it's kind of an ugly term.  When I first came across it it seemed a little dismissive, like a person's own religious experiences don't count for much.  I guess I am used to it at this point though.
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Offline TahekerutAset

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Re: Glossary Question...
« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2010, 03:50:04 pm »
I've always taken UPG to mean that what you are describing is your personal experience as opposed to a historical verifiable action.  I find it helpful in communication especially when you want to know which is historical or personal experience.  

To my mind, this doesn't say that the personal experience is dismissed so much as labeling the UPG as what it is.  I also find it helpful because personal experiences can differ. If I'm reading a post and I know it's someone's UPG, I know whatever they're describing is their UPG and not something from AE.  I can go: That's an amazing experience and may or may not work for me rather than this is backed up by thousands of years of tradition while honoring that deity (and may need adaptation depending on what it is).  

The knowledge of the ancestors comes with the tradition and the organic creative interactiveness with the gods permeates the present experiences.  I think both are important.  

And it is really neat when they both coincide like offering Sekhmet beer.  
TahekerutAset "Aset's Jewel"
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