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Author Topic: Chenti-Cheti?  (Read 3935 times)

Offline Sekhenetnut

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Chenti-Cheti?
« on: October 12, 2010, 04:55:36 am »
In reading one of Pauline Gedge's fantastic novels (The Twice Born), I came across several mentions of a crocodile God named Chenti-Cheti. I googled a little but found next to no info except that He was also displayed as a falcon.

Anyone familiar with this Name?
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Offline Sedjemes

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Re: Chenti-Cheti?
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2010, 06:11:23 am »
Hotep!

Wilkinson's _Complete Gods and Goddesses_ has a brief entry on Khenti-kheti (the other way to spell it) on page 203. The god was worshipped around the Athribis area (Lower Egypt) and apparently associated with Heru, which is why he could be depicted as falcon-headed, but also as falcon-headed.

When I googled him I came across this page (in German ;)

http://www.aegyptologie.com/forum/cgi-bin/YaBB/YaBB.pl?action=lexikond&id=050425175112

Maybe it gives a bit more information?

Hart does not seem to have an entry at all on him.
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Offline Iaityinepu

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Re: Chenti-Cheti?
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2010, 06:18:36 am »
here's the translation to the German site that KI Sedjemes linked:

Quote from: [url=http://www.aegyptologie.com/forum/cgi-bin/YaBB/YaBB.pl?action=lexikond&id=050425175112
from this German translation, translated to English using Google Translator[/url]"]
...also known in its Greek form Chentechtai was a local god in the Egyptian Athribis (altäg. Kem-wer; today Tell Atrib). The interpretation of the name is unclear.

In the illustration, it is a man with a falcon's head, often with two eyes as a sign of the sun and the moon. But it can also be represented as a crocodile. The earliest reference is found in a personal name of the Old Kingdom, written by a crocodile.
Already in the Old Kingdom, he merged with -> Horus Horus Khenty-Kheti (so-Wilkinson), according to Bonnet, this happens only in the New Kingdom.

The cult of Khenty-Kheti in early times occupied only sparse. In the Middle Kingdom, the name usually appears only in personal names. Only in the New Kingdom under Amenhotep III. He is reinforced in honor, as Athribis regarded as the home Amenhotep son of Hapu. Ramses III. has the temple of God can be restored again and the new cult geordnet.Die importance of the temple and the city grew in the late period to Prolomäerzeit at more and more.
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Offline Sekhenetnut

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Re: Chenti-Cheti?
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2010, 06:34:08 am »
Thanks for your help, I'm glad there's a little more info out there.
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Re: Chenti-Cheti?
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2010, 02:39:11 pm »
Em-Hotep-Sekhenetnut,

Khentykhety is a rather obscure god whom very little is actually known about. He once was the main deity of the 10th Nome (or region) of Lower Egypt which translates to "Black Bull" and its capital was Athribis.  This city was not far from modern day Cairo, which was a very potent place of worship for the Netjer Horus, and thus Khentykhety was associated with the falcon. Being a Netjer of the Black Bull Nome he was also associated with the a Bull; he is linked to the crocodile by belief that the creature was linked to the Nome's capital of Athribis.

He was normally depicted as a standing man with the head of a falcon along with having horns within the sun-disk atop of his head. In this form he was often called "Horus-Khentykhety."
 
In his earliest depictions from the early Middle Kingdom, he had head of a bull and wore the Atef-crown with horns and was called "Osiris-Khentykhety"  Some texts have indicated that he had a temple of his own during the reign of Pharaoh Amenhotep III, likely in his home town which by tradition was linked to the crocodile: Thus, he was also depicted as a striding man with a crocodile's head (much like Sobek) and in hieroglyphic texts he was seen as a simple crocodile: it is believed that the crocodile is his oldest form, though this idea along with his true purpose as a Netjer is still very much a mystery.
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