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Author Topic: Medes-Tep  (Read 4118 times)

Medes-Tep
« on: January 27, 2011, 02:39:53 pm »
Why called a netjeri when referred to elsewhere as a netjeru?

Does anyone know much about him?
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Offline Sedjemes

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Re: Medes-Tep
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2011, 02:54:07 pm »
Hotep

Medes-tep has been identified on a different forum as a netjeri, one of the guardians of the gates. How those folks made such identification is not clear from their posts. However, on a different forum, there Medes-tep is said to be depicted on the shrine of Tutankhamun. His name means Decapitator and he is one of a group of four, all called guardians, for that shrine. He differs from Maahes perhaps because he holds two swords where Maahes carries a sword and perhaps a lotus, due to his association with Nefertem.

I suppose if depictions have glyphs, that also helps with identification.

Unfortunately I have no direct information about the gate guardians.
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Re: Medes-Tep
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2011, 06:31:09 pm »
It is possible for a being to be both Netjer and netjeri if They so choose to be, in some situations.  

Of course the Bes daughter pipes up on this one :P
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Re: Medes-Tep
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2011, 10:48:15 pm »
Quote from: Bestekeni
It is possible for a being to be both Netjer and netjeri if They so choose to be, in some situations.


How?

And I guess that would mean I need a refresher of what 'netjeri' means... Please?
"Give sorrow a Sailor smile."
~ "Makenai" by Hanazawa Kae; Sailor Moon Stars, Season 5, episode 200

"Beyond this road, running on far and long, must surely be something we can believe in."
~ "Pure Heart" by Rikki; Final Fantasy VII, "Aerith's Theme"

Offline Phoenix_Falls

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Re: Medes-Tep
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2011, 10:53:14 pm »
I always thought that Ma'ahes was a Netjeru? Being the son of Sekhmet (or Bast) and Ptah (or Ra, or Amum-Ra, or a human) and being an Eye of Ra, that He'd be considered a Netjeru (specifically a war deity and a parallel to the Nubian Apedemak)
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Re: Medes-Tep
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2011, 11:25:56 pm »
Ma'ahes is a Name of Netjer. I think we are debating if Medes-tep is a Netjeru or netjeri :)
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Re: Medes-Tep
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2011, 02:36:32 am »
Em-Hotep-Rh'ekh,

I am not very well versed in Gate Guardians, though I would venture a guess that Medes-Tep is not a Netjeru, though rather a Netjeri. Like Sedjemes mentioned, Medes-Tep is shown on a gilded chest of Tutankhaten as one of its four guardians. And seeing as he does not carry a staff or ankh (a symbol of power and importance), this also leads me to speculate that he is a Netjeri more than a Netjeru.

While this is a shopping website for some interesting things Egyptian; they do make a rather plausible assumption as to why Medes-Tep is not a Netjeru... They do give sources: only referencing the books their images are from though.  

http://www.stuffemal.com/cgi-bin/store/pid_316.htm
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Re: Medes-Tep
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2011, 03:13:45 pm »
Why do you need to know?
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Re: Medes-Tep
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2011, 04:08:34 pm »
Quote from: Jet
Why do you need to know?


Hi Jet,

Not sure if you're directing this question to me or not, but...

I would like to know where such information comes from...

Also, I need a refresher of what 'netjeri' means.
"Give sorrow a Sailor smile."
~ "Makenai" by Hanazawa Kae; Sailor Moon Stars, Season 5, episode 200

"Beyond this road, running on far and long, must surely be something we can believe in."
~ "Pure Heart" by Rikki; Final Fantasy VII, "Aerith's Theme"

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Re: Medes-Tep
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2011, 04:59:46 pm »
Netjeri are beings in the unseen that are not gods or ancestors.
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Re: Medes-Tep
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2011, 05:16:19 pm »
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Netjeri are beings in the unseen that are not gods or ancestors.  


Thank you Bestekeni! :)
"Give sorrow a Sailor smile."
~ "Makenai" by Hanazawa Kae; Sailor Moon Stars, Season 5, episode 200

"Beyond this road, running on far and long, must surely be something we can believe in."
~ "Pure Heart" by Rikki; Final Fantasy VII, "Aerith's Theme"

 


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