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Author Topic: Anyone know Wesret?  (Read 2847 times)

Offline Itenumuti

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Anyone know Wesret?
« on: October 15, 2011, 12:51:21 pm »
Em hotep, all.

In a bit of wild-goose-chase research, trying to figure out if the word/name wesret means anything in particular after having a startling UPG of a snake goddess associated with the name, I discovered two things:

1) The Funerary Papyrus of Te-net-wesret-en-per-nesu, the Singer of Amun

2) The personal name Senwesret, which apparently translates to Man of (the goddess) Wesret.

Further research obtains this snippet of information from Egyptian Mythology by W. Max Muller, after seeing a note that he could write Ung as Weng and thus Usret as Wesret:

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Usret ("Mighty One") was applied as an epithet to many goddesses, but in its special sense it was the name of a very popular divinity of the earlier period, who was, perhaps, in the shape of a serpent. She is described as "residing on the western height," in the fifth nome of the Delta. Later she was little known, although once she is called, curiously enough, "mother of Min."


And from this blog post I get this:

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Usret:  literally, "the powerful one", perhaps an early version of "She-Who-must-be-obeyed".  She was a relatively obscure goddess who is rarely depicted, probably because her cult flourished (at Thebes, modern Luxor) during the Middle Kingdom in Egypt (roughly 2000-1700 BC), and very little remains of the temples of that period – they’ve mostly been broken up, re-used and covered over by later monuments.  Similarly, later, even more powerful goddesses supplanted her as objects of worship.  However, the Kings of the time, who came from her home town, saw her as their patron goddess, which was why several of them were named after her.


Thanks to Raheri pointing out that Wesret = Wosret, we have more information!

 
  • An image of Wosret (far right)
  • originally Amun's first wife, later replaced by Mut and identified with Hethert
  • carries/wears the Was sceptre; often shown holding weapons (spears, bow/arrows, axe)
  • local guardian deity of Thebes; pharaohs coming from that area named themselves for her (Senwesret/Senwosret/Usretsen/etc)
  • the Temple of Isis Usret suggests a possible link to Aset, as well
  • Wosret = Wosyet: protector of the young, entrusted with Horus in his youth - another link to Aset
...

My question is twofold - can anyone translate the name Te-net-wesret-en-per-nesu's meaning, and does anyone know anything more about Wesret as a Netjeru?

Many thanks for any help you can give!

Note: I will update this post as I find more information on Wesret/Usret.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 pm by Emky »
Senebty, Tenu
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Child of Nebt-het & Hethert-Nut
Beloved of Ma'ahes, Serqet, & Wepwawet
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Offline Raheri

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Re: Anyone know Wesret?
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2011, 01:04:22 pm »
Em hotep Emky!

I really cant help you with any of this except that maybe Wesret is another spelling for Wosret. She was the first wife of Amun and was a local goddess of Thebes.

Senebty,
Raheri
Sa Wesir-Sokar, mery Nut her Djehuty
Heri-sesheta Wesir

Offline Itenumuti

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Re: Anyone know Wesret?
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2011, 01:08:30 pm »
Hotep, Raheri!

If Wesret = Wosret, and Wosret is Amun's wife, that would make sense that a Singer of Amun would have "wesret" in her name. Awesome.

Thank you!
Senebty, Tenu
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Beloved of Ma'ahes, Serqet, & Wepwawet
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Offline Naisenu

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« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2011, 10:23:23 am »
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« Last Edit: May 07, 2018, 11:48:49 pm by Naisenu »

Offline Maen

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Re: Anyone know Wesret?
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2011, 12:04:21 pm »
em hotep

Te-net-Wesret-en-per-nesu: literally "This one - belonging to - the powerful one - of - house - king"
I'd translate "She of Wosret of the king's house"
I don't have the necessary books available to check this at present, but I'd guess that "Wosret of the King's house" might be the name of a specific local goddess.

Senwosret is a name of similar structure and meaning:
Si-en-Wosret: Man of Wosret

As far as I know most scientists believe that Senwosret is referring to HetHert, Wosret being a title of HetHert and not a seperate Goddess. I don't have any good, hard evidence for this theory, though. We'd have to check if "Wosret" is indeed a common title for HetHert in Middle Kingdom texts.


And I'd be careful with the identification of Waset and Wosret, since the hieroglyphs for "Was" and "User" (which is the male core form of Wosret) are different ones (S40 and F12 on Gardiner's list)


senebty

Ma'en
Ma'a-en-Hethert ("rightly belonging to HetHert")
Daughter of HetHert-Sekhmet, beloved of Nut, Djehuty and Nit-NebtHet-Seshat

Offline Itenumuti

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Re: Anyone know Wesret?
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2011, 12:39:46 pm »
Thanks, Naisenu!

Maen, thank you very much for the name translation!

From what I've found in my research so far, it looks like Wosret was once Her own separate deity, a protective local Netjeru of Thebes. However, later on, she was identified with/replaced by Hethert, as so many smaller Names and Their characters/qualities often get consumed by more popular deities, such as Hethert and Aset. (Alternately, Wilkinson suggests that Wosret was originally a form of Hethert that took on Her own identity as time progressed, but I've found more sources that support the other way around.)
Senebty, Tenu
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Child of Nebt-het & Hethert-Nut
Beloved of Ma'ahes, Serqet, & Wepwawet
𓉠𓃕𓄂𓆫𓃧

 


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