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Author Topic: Help with translation please  (Read 1514 times)

Offline NeferSesh

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Help with translation please
« on: October 24, 2011, 06:07:39 am »
Hotep all

Reading the pyramid texts by mercer and on utterance 21 it shows

"I open for thee thy mouth with the nw3 the mśḫtiw-hook of copper (or, iron), which opens the mouth of the gods."

I would like some help with nw3 and mśḫtiw, I have looked around and struggling to find any results or I'm just searching in the wrong places.

I would really appreciate if anyone can give me a hand understanding this

Thank you and Senebti
Sat Bastet

Offline Tanebet

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Re: Help with translation please
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2011, 06:19:32 am »
Em Hotep *henu*

when translations use the Egyptian word it usually means that there is no real equivalent in our language or that no one has been able to find out what the word means (e.g. plants or materials)
You could check the Faulker translation which is newer than the Mercer translation, maybe he could translate those words

Tanebetheru "Heru's Lordship"
Sat Heru Sa Aset her Nisut (AUS), Meryt Ra-Heru-akhety her Heru-Behedety
Heri-Sesheta Heru-Sa-Aset

This is what I was born to: to live, to love, to know, to change and embrace the infinite.
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Offline Sedjemes

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Re: Help with translation please
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2011, 06:22:56 am »
Em hotep!

I am not sure what exactly you are asking, but Faulkner's translation shows that part of Utterance 21 this way:

I split open your mouth for you with the adze of iron which split open the mouths of the gods.

I don't know how Mercer shows it (if he uses just glyphs.) The edition of Faulkner's Pyramid Texts I used is just translation, no glyphs or transliteration.
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Sedjemes ("She listens")
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Offline NeferSesh

  • Remetj
Re: Help with translation please
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2011, 06:50:43 am »


I'm using a translated version on sacred texts website and that is what is says, I was wondering if they are names of instruments used in the opening of the mouth or something else since i can't see to find it anywhere.

I will look into Faulkner, thanks
Sat Bastet


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