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Author Topic: Bast - A Goddess of the Home?  (Read 2683 times)

Bast - A Goddess of the Home?
« on: January 03, 2014, 09:34:57 pm »
Bast's symbol is of course the cat, and even in ancient times, cats were domesticated, meaning they lived in homes and palaces with humans. Today, many people also have cats as pets. So could Bast be considered a Goddess of the Home?

Em Hotep
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Offline Arefsenu

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Re: Bast - A Goddess of the Home?
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2014, 05:10:51 am »
Em hotep.

I'm honestly not sure. My Mother to me is maternal and loving but She's also fierce- a protector. I see Her as an Eye of Ra, not just a 'domestic' Goddess.

Senebty.
« Last Edit: January 04, 2014, 08:49:55 am by Arefsenu »
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Offline Rev. Shefyt

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Re: Bast - A Goddess of the Home?
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2014, 07:40:19 am »
Yes, among many other things. (Personally I'm a little leery of limiting Her to the domestic sphere. After all, She is not a tame lion. ^_^ )

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Offline Tahai

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Re: Bast - A Goddess of the Home?
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2014, 09:27:52 am »
Em hotep, Akins,

What I know from various resources (both academic and not) and personal gnosis:  

Bast is not a goddess of home and hearth, per se.  She is a protector of children, and part of protecting children is a strong and stable home, therefore She is a protector of the home.   She is a Goddess of many layers:  a war Goddess, a Goddess of Joy, Protector of Children, The Ripper, The Shredder, The Tearor, Lady of the Perfume Jar...  But first, foremost, and always, She is an avenging Eye of Ra. She rides the Barque of Ra each night along with the other Eyes, doing battle with the Uncreated.

This site gives a good list of Her known epithets, which will give you a good idea of the roles She is associated with.
http://www.wepwawet.org/wiki/index.php?title=Bast

Blessings and Senebty,

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Offline Vaalea

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Re: Bast - A Goddess of the Home?
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2014, 07:31:32 pm »
I'm fairly in agreement with Tahai on this.

UPG on Bast tends to go as, She's very, very opposed to being defined as 'domestic kitty'. Not that She doesn't love them and care for them, they're Her children in the animal kingdom after all and most commonly viewable representatives, but She's not them, She still retains Her status, limiting Bast's nature is a no-no.
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Offline Rev. Sema'a

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Re: Bast - A Goddess of the Home?
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2014, 07:22:48 am »
I guess I'd have to say I'm the odd one out, here. While I acknowledge that for most people, Bast is a protective and ferocious goddess, She has always presented Herself focused on creativity and family to me. I think this is largely because my Father and Mother have the fierceness factor covered well. While I would never suggest reducing any deity to a single aspect, I think They show different sides to different devotees sometimes. If Bast presents Herself as a deity of the home to you, then I think that's perfectly valid as it is a part of who She is to some degree.

Now, if Bast were presenting Herself as a goddess of banana trees, that might be a bit different as there is absolutely no precedent for that. But a little variance in a deity's focus combined with historical background is okay in my eyes. ;)

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Offline Rev. Ma'atnofret

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Re: Bast - A Goddess of the Home?
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2014, 05:40:30 pm »
I also see Bast in this facet of her, as a home, hearth, and family goddess. OF COURSE that is not all she is (like any woman, she has many sides). But that is how I 'get' her.  
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Offline Vaalea

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Re: Bast - A Goddess of the Home?
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2014, 05:29:51 am »
Quote from: Sobeqsenu
I guess I'd have to say I'm the odd one out, here. While I acknowledge that for most people, Bast is a protective and ferocious goddess, She has always presented Herself focused on creativity and family to me. I think this is largely because my Father and Mother have the fierceness factor covered well. While I would never suggest reducing any deity to a single aspect, I think They show different sides to different devotees sometimes. If Bast presents Herself as a deity of the home to you, then I think that's perfectly valid as it is a part of who She is to some degree.

Now, if Bast were presenting Herself as a goddess of banana trees, that might be a bit different as there is absolutely no precedent for that. But a little variance in a deity's focus combined with historical background is okay in my eyes. ;)

Senebty,
Sobeq


I agree that god may take as many forms as there are devotees, and are rather individual for everyone.

Personally I was responding to the tendency to well, soften Bast to the point of entirely ignoring Her warrior aspects, which in my experience Bast well, bit snickered about, not saying that She can't be and isn't this or that ever. (Just thinking of clarifying, /pondering Her aloud. No disrespect meant here. :P)

That point of banana trees actually amused me, as I've seen Her at times *present in* even though not 'goddess of' form of banana trees, but then that was trying to grab attention to different tradition and being well, playful cat with 'let's see if you get the hint, I'm still a guide'; which yes is different thing altogether and not kemetic, I'm just pointing anecdata to Netjer as sometimes doing 'unusual' for them things if having specific *purpose* in mind with the path of Their children. :P

Senebty,

Vaalea
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Sa Wepwawet-Ra her Bast, KO Sa Serqet.
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Offline Ankhetbast

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Re: Bast - A Goddess of the Home?
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2014, 12:34:10 am »
Em hotep!

Mother is not domestic, per se.  She can be seen in our domestic companions.  But She is *feline*.  She is not a house kitty, even if She loves them fiercely.  Remember that Bast is also represented in semi-leonine form in antiquity.  She's not a tame little pussy cat, even if She occasionally entertain Herself by pretending to be one.

Bast is very much concerned with families.  Her strong association with children, as well as the Lady of Joy, can make her seem... homey.  

Senebty,
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 pm by Ankhetbast »
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Offline Demaimuti

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Re: Bast - A Goddess of the Home?
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2014, 07:41:03 am »
One of her titles is 'Northern Hethert' which does bring in the family aspect. I think the answers show that trying to pigeon hole a Name is a bad idea.

The Names ask different things of each of us. Bast insists that I have have a domestic cat whenever possible. She says it is good for me and given my depression, I think she may have a point. (The current cat is a tabby named Queenie) Her and Hethert have asked for a devotional artwork that I have almost finished.
sat Bast her Hethert-Mut, meryt Aset-Serqet, Heru-wer, Djehuty.

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