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Author Topic: Approaching Wesir  (Read 6116 times)

Offline M'aqanitui

  • Shemsu
  • Country: gb
Approaching Wesir
« on: December 06, 2015, 12:23:36 am »
Em Hotep, everyone.

I've been curios about approaching Wesir for a little while now, but not really gotten around to it. Well, last night, I had a dream about Him. I can't remember exactly what the dream involved, but I do remember it was about Him. I'd say that's probably a good enough sign to at the very least start talking to Him.[

So can anyone here tell me anything I should know about Wesir? His personality, likes and dislikes, preferred offerings etc?

And a slightly awkward question, but how exactly is "Wesir" pronounced? Is it wess-er or wess-ear?
Sat Ra her Wepwawet-Yinepu
Meryt Bast her Djehuty

Never stop smiling, and you will always stay firmly on your feet. :)

Offline Rehenhersenu

  • Shemsu
  • Country: us
Re: Approaching Wesir
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2015, 02:46:20 am »
Em hotep!

Personality wise, I experience him as very quiet and very observant. He's a deity that takes influence in your life and makes himself known in the smallest of ways that you may not even catch it until months later, when you realize he's been there the whole time. It's been a long long time since I've interacted with him though, and I'm not sure if my experience is the same of that of others.
As for offerings, I think potted plants and small sprouts are very good offerings. I used to care for some succulents and aloe vera plants for him. Beer and bread are the staple, or water.
I've been told you never offer Wesir pork, fish, or sand. So those are things he probably dislikes (not to mention the historical reasons surrounding fish).
As for the pronunciation, I say "Wes-ear".

Hope this helps!
Sat Sobek her Taweret ,
Meryt Hethert-Sekhmet, Set, Yinepu-Wepwawet, Khnum, Wesir, her Khepera

(Rehenhersenu- "Relies on Two")

Offline M'aqanitui

  • Shemsu
  • Country: gb
Re: Approaching Wesir
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2015, 04:39:17 am »
Cool, thanks for the help! :D
Sat Ra her Wepwawet-Yinepu
Meryt Bast her Djehuty

Never stop smiling, and you will always stay firmly on your feet. :)

Offline Maretemheqat

  • Rev Shauna - Ordained Clergy
  • Country: ca
Re: Approaching Wesir
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2015, 12:33:07 pm »
Em Hotep Abigail,

Wesir is not just connected with death, but also with plant matter and vegetation. I know during the Sekhmet Baths at Wep Ronpet, there is a bath for Wesir that calls for using plant matter in it that is associated with him. We just finished the Mysteries of Wesir as well, so I can give you a run down of some of the things I do when trying to engage with Him.

Firstly, when I choose my incense, I specifically use either cedarwood or Japanese cypress. Both seem to go over well enough, but again, because Wesir is a god of the dead, He is often very distant and hard to hear.
I've also offered ginger cookies, or gingersnaps, with some degree of appreciation as well. If I offer tea, it is usually a loose herbal blend with mint, but most of the time I'll offer cool water. You can offer bread as well, which I have done with some degree of success, even more so if it is a grain-specific bread (like 12 grain or Ancient Grain).

Patience is key with Him for sure, as like I said, He can be very hard to hear.

Hope this helps.

Senebty!
Rev. Mesetibes
Sat Heqat, meryt Djehuti her Ptah her Heru-wer
Fedw Diviner
2011 Wep Ronpet Frog Princess/
W'abet Nekhen Sha'a Sha'at Imef

Offline M'aqanitui

  • Shemsu
  • Country: gb
Re: Approaching Wesir
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2015, 12:50:40 pm »
Thank you! :D

I can't use incense at the moment because of the house I'm staying in, but I'll see what kinds of breads and teas I can find for Him. :)
Sat Ra her Wepwawet-Yinepu
Meryt Bast her Djehuty

Never stop smiling, and you will always stay firmly on your feet. :)

Online Tanebet

  • Rev Astrid - Ordained Clergy, Semer-Wati
  • Country: 00
Re: Approaching Wesir
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2015, 11:49:02 am »
Em Hotep

I find Wesir subtle, calm and quiet. For me there are two ways to connect to Him. Either via His son Heru (They can be very similar at times) or I find Him in the dark and silent places.
Like Rev. Maret I like to offer cedarwood incense.
When it comes to offerings I like to offer beef, dates, grape juice and  whole-grain bread. (and never ever fish)

Senebty
Tanebet
Tanebetheru "Heru's Lordship"
Sat Heru Sa Aset her Nisut (AUS), Meryt Ra-Heru-akhety her Heru-Behedety
Heri-Sesheta Heru-Sa-Aset

This is what I was born to: to live, to love, to know, to change and embrace the infinite.
Normandi Ellis: "Awakening Osiris"

Offline Maretemheqat

  • Rev Shauna - Ordained Clergy
  • Country: ca
Re: Approaching Wesir
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2015, 12:44:25 pm »
Em Hotep,

Thank you, Rev. Tanebet, for bringing up the fish thing. It hadn't occurred to me to mention that, and I'm glad you did.

We don't offer fish to Wesir primarily because when his dismembered parts were thrown into the Nile, there was a fish that happened to eat one. I recall when I still had my fish tanks, I had to keep it on the opposite side of my akhu shrine where my Wesir statue resides per His request.

Senebty!
Rev. Mesetibes
Sat Heqat, meryt Djehuti her Ptah her Heru-wer
Fedw Diviner
2011 Wep Ronpet Frog Princess/
W'abet Nekhen Sha'a Sha'at Imef

Offline Johnny Charlton

  • Country: us
Re: Approaching Wesir
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2016, 06:21:14 pm »
Am I wrong to just call him Ausar ?


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Offline Rayashi

  • W'ab Priest - Lay Clergy
  • Country: us
Re: Approaching Wesir
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2016, 06:39:50 pm »
Am I wrong to just call him Ausar ?
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As a beginner or Remetj, I don't see an issue with it; however, should you decide to take Shemsu vows, I suggest getting used to Wesir.
Rayashi (Yashi) - "Ra calls me"
Sat Ra her Hekatawy Alexandros (AUS)
Meryt Heru-sa-Aset, Wepwawet-Yinepu, Nut, Sekhmet-Hethert, Sokar-Wesir, her Min

Etsy

Offline Ra'awyserqet

  • W'ab Priest - Lay Clergy
  • Country: us
Re: Approaching Wesir
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2016, 07:21:32 pm »
Am I wrong to just call him Ausar ?


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Em hotep Johnny!

Most of the people here will call Him Wesir, so you will find that you have a lot of brain translating to do. (I actually do this when I talk to non-Kemetics.) There's nothing inherently wrong with calling Him Ausar, we simply use Wesir because that is the transliteration that our membership with degrees in Egyptology had settled on years ago as closest to the original. This includes researching on the Coptic language, which still contains sounds, words, and presses from their ancestors. Not unchanged of course, but we modern people do the best we can. :)

Ausar, Wesir, etc, etc, He's still Himself.

Senebty
Ra'awy

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(They/them)

Sat Serqet-Aset her Nisut-bity Hekatawy | (aus), meryt Sekhmet-Mut, Yinepu-Wepwawet, Heru-wer, her Hethert-Nut-as-Nehmet-Awai.

Fedw Diviner

Offline Johnny Charlton

  • Country: us
Re: Approaching Wesir
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2016, 08:27:48 pm »
OK. Thanks
I will look into the Coptic Language....

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Offline Johnny Charlton

  • Country: us
Re: Approaching Wesir
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2016, 08:30:50 pm »
Am I wrong to just call him Ausar ?
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As a beginner or Remetj, I don't see an issue with it; however, should you decide to take Shemsu vows, I suggest getting used to Wesir.
What is the correct pronunciation of Wesir ?

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Offline Nehwen

  • Divined Remetj
  • Country: us
Re: Approaching Wesir
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2016, 09:33:25 pm »
It varies by accent, of course, but generally "weh-SEER" is how this Wesir kid approaches it. :)
Sat Wesir | Meryt Bast her Serqet-Aset

Now not only day shall be beloved, but night too shall be beautiful and blessed and all its fear pass away!. -J.R.R. Tolkien

Offline Rayashi

  • W'ab Priest - Lay Clergy
  • Country: us
Approaching Wesir
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2016, 09:34:16 pm »
I agree with .
« Last Edit: November 07, 2016, 09:58:27 pm by Rayashi »
Rayashi (Yashi) - "Ra calls me"
Sat Ra her Hekatawy Alexandros (AUS)
Meryt Heru-sa-Aset, Wepwawet-Yinepu, Nut, Sekhmet-Hethert, Sokar-Wesir, her Min

Etsy

Offline Johnny Charlton

  • Country: us
Re: Approaching Wesir
« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2016, 01:39:52 pm »
Thanks

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