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Author Topic: Primordial Water in Egyptian Tradition  (Read 2760 times)

Offline BalancingAct

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Primordial Water in Egyptian Tradition
« on: July 25, 2016, 12:40:47 pm »
Hey everyone,

Long time lurker, first time poster. I've been doing some personal research lately into the ways that primordial/chaotic waters feature in various religious traditions, from Yahweh "[moving] over the face of the deep" in the Hebrew scriptures to the Sumerian Abzu. I was curious what, if any, significance that this has in the various Egyptian traditions. I know that some traditions involve Ra rising from the depths and that the Ogdoad features a god and goddess of the primordial waters.

Do these feature prominently any of your own experiences? Do you feel like the "chaotic" nature represents, as it does in some traditions, something to be conquered or, as in others, something to be respected?
« Last Edit: July 26, 2016, 08:59:20 am by BalancingAct »

Offline Mesetibes

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Re: Dream interpretation?
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2016, 08:12:55 pm »
Em Hotep and Welcome,

As an aside, Bestekeni posted a very helpful sticky in regards to dream interpretation, which can be found

Take a look around the forums, however, and see if there might be anything else that helps.

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Offline Rev. Shezatwepwawet

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Re: Dream interpretation?
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2016, 07:41:55 am »
Em hotep and welcome!
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Offline BalancingAct

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Re: Dream interpretation?
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2016, 08:53:47 am »
Thank you everyone!

@Maretemheqat, thank you for the link as well. I see a lot of really good points here, and I'll restructure the topic to be more constructive and conversational.

Offline Asetemsatweret

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Re: Primordial Water in Egyptian Tradition
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2016, 12:58:52 pm »
Em hotep,

The Nun is the primordial water. I don't necessarily think of it as literal water. It's the state of dissolution before form emerged. The Ogdoad does have eight deities associated with these primordial states; two (Nun and Nunet) representing the water themselves.


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Offline Padememheru

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Re: Primordial Water in Egyptian Tradition
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2016, 04:00:03 pm »
Em Hotep.  And Asetemsatweret is correct.  First it was Nun and Nunet(Naunet), then a mound called BenBen which either Ra, Ptah, or I think most commonly it was Atum that rose from this mound.  Of course this all depended on which area of Kemet you lived in when it came to who was the first.

However for me personally I believe it is something to be respected and acknowledged, not something to be conquered.  Just like with the gods.  You worship and respect Them, you don't conquer Them.  At least in my opinion.  Don't know if this helps, but that's my two cents.
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