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Offline Subani

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Synchretized male and female?
« on: May 07, 2018, 06:46:27 am »
This is a possible fast or long question.... Does anyone know if there have ever been Synchretized male and female netjer? Amun and Nut are what i was specifically thinking first but any in general.
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Offline Remenit

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Re: Synchretized male and female?
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2018, 08:36:15 am »
Em Hotep,

Nit-Wesir is the first one that comes to mind.

This is a syncretisation between Nits royal funerary function at Abydos, mentioned in I believe daily lives of the Egyptian gods.

On phone so if wanted could give a larger answer later.

Senebty
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Offline TabauAmunet

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Synchretized male and female?
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2018, 08:52:34 am »
Em hotep!

I have run into Sekhmet-Bast-Ra, Sekhmet-Min, and a few others while reading. Similarly I am on my phone and will have to get back to this with more.
Senebty!
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Offline Sedjfaiemitui

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Re: Synchretized male and female?
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2018, 09:48:36 am »
Ptah-Naunet is another. They are mentioned under the heading of "Ptah the Supreme God" (p. 54) in the section entitled "The Memphite Theology," in Miriam Lichtheim's Ancient Egyptian Literature I: The Old and Middle Kingdoms.

Whenever such arrangements occur, it is to demonstrate the absolute completeness of the Being of the Creator. The Creator (in the Memphite case, Ptah) contains all the necessary generative qualities and all potentialities, both male and female. :)

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Offline Subani

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Re: Synchretized male and female?
« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2018, 09:16:41 am »
This is very interesting. Any more similar names?
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Offline Sedjfaiemitui

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Re: Synchretized male and female?
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2018, 01:14:14 pm »
Oh, plenty. :)

One of the most ubiquitous-yet-subtle -- and arguably the most important -- of such arrangements is that of Atum and Iusaas-Nebethetepet. Iusaas-Nebethetepet is the personification of Atum's hand in His act of "ejaculating" Shu and Tefnut, and Her presence in the act -- being part of Atum's "body" -- helps to reinforce the principle that there must be both male and female elements present in order for the act of creation to occur.

Atum-Iusaas-Nebethetepet is the primary model for all male-female combinations, in the same way that all deities acting in the capacity of "Creator" are "Being Atum" or "generate Atum."

(In some Creation schemes, this-or-that deity "begets Atum" or is "The Father of Atum," as is said of Ptah in the Memphite Theology. Such statements aren't to be read literally as theogonies. Rather, they are demonstrating that "X deity is operating in the capacity of the Complete and First Being, of Tem.")

Senebty!
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Meryt Herishef, Wesir-Narefy, Heru-Wer, her Yinepu

Offline Djedetmiwesir

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Re: Synchretized male and female?
« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2018, 05:34:42 pm »
Em hotep Rev Remenit!

Em Hotep,

Nit-Wesir is the first one that comes to mind.

This is a syncretisation between Nits royal funerary function at Abydos, mentioned in I believe daily lives of the Egyptian gods.

On phone so if wanted could give a larger answer later.

Senebty

As Sat Wesir Meryt Nit, I would love to hear absolutely everything you had to teach on this! I don't have that that book anymore, maybe I should fix that.

Senebty!
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Re: Synchretized male and female?
« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2018, 05:13:03 pm »
Em Hotep, Djedet

I'll pull what notes I have (and see if I can recall which papers I located that backed this up) when I'm back from hotel heck.

('aint travel wonderful?)
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Offline Djedetmiwesir

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Re: Synchretized male and female?
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2018, 09:33:59 pm »
Em hotep Reverend Remenit!

Thank you so much.  Take all the time you need and rest well when you get home.

Senebty!
Djedet
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