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Author Topic: Liminal Netjeru  (Read 874 times)

Offline perankh

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Liminal Netjeru
« on: October 08, 2018, 08:58:32 pm »
Em hotep!

I was wondering which Netjeru people think of as liminal deities. Names like Wepwawet and our many psychopomps (Anup, Hethert, etc.) come to mind for me. Am I missing anyone? Who's your favorite liminal Netjeru?

« Last Edit: October 08, 2018, 09:15:02 pm by perankh »

Offline GugaLopes

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Re: Liminal Netjeru
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2018, 07:56:46 am »
Em hotep,
Nebt-het can be seen as a liminal goddess, even though it is not something explicit in kemet, but the greeks would call her 'end' as the end before the beginning.
"I am All That Has Been, That Is, and That Will Be.
No mortal has yet been able to lift the veil that covers Me."
(Quote found on a statue of Nit at Sais)

Offline Yinepuemsaes

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Re: Liminal Netjeru
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2018, 08:20:31 am »
I've been thinking lately about crossroads deities, and wondering if KO has any.
Yinepuemsaes - "Yinepu is her protection"
Sat Yinepu
Meryt Bast

Offline TabauAmunet

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Re: Liminal Netjeru
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2018, 09:08:38 am »
The Ogdoad could be seen as liminal. They exist both before and after creation.
Senebty!
~Tabauamunet
Child of Mut-as-Amunet, beloved of Sekhmet-HetHert, Seshat-Nit-NebtHet, Bast, Amun-Min, Nefertem, and Bawy
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Offline Neshnytyinepu

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Re: Liminal Netjeru
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2018, 06:57:47 pm »
I've been thinking lately about crossroads deities, and wondering if KO has any.

I don't know if KO has a "Netjer of the Crossroads" the way some traditions do, but I would look to Wepwawet, as Opener of the Way, for crossroads work.

As for liminal Netjer, Set fits as well--not as a psychopomp, but as a Name associated with edges and "outsiders" and places Not Here.
Neshnytyinepu (Neshnyt) "Yinepu's Storm"
Sa Yinepu-Wepwawet 𓃤, mery Nut her Set her Nebt-het
they/them pronouns please
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Online Pairysenu

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Re: Liminal Netjeru
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2018, 11:46:21 pm »
I have 'Lady of the Borders of Places' on my list of Sekhmet epithets. Not sure the original source for it, though I'm pretty sure I got it from the LAGG. It's probably more in the sense of protecting the borders, but it still feels very liminal to me.

And as Neshnyt says, very much Set. I have very liminal Parents.  :P
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"The One Who Acts For Two"
Meset Sekhmet-Hethert her Set
Meryt Heru-wer her Sobek

Offline daughterofnetjeru

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Re: Liminal Netjeru
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2018, 05:30:36 pm »
Nebt-het definitely feels liminal to me, too. As does Wepwawet.
Senebty,
Deborah

Offline Gezausenu

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Re: Liminal Netjeru
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2018, 07:40:28 pm »
Em hotep, friends!

I also think of Papa Set as being very liminal--as He appears to me, boundaries aren't really a thing for Him; He's transformative, a Wild Man; He represents things to me which there's no boundary against (or at least, nothing but self-created ones--and it pleases Him to tear those down).

I also see dearest Ptah as being extremely liminal. He's, well, BIG. Very vast and ancient; Ptah's almost beyond reckoning to me . . . He seems even bigger to me than the divide between the seen and unseen, here and the Duat, and yet He's very present. He's Elsewhere (the beginning of creation) and Here (and now) simultaneously and pervasively, inextricably.

*melts into a puddle of love and awe*

<3
Senebty,
Gezausenu.
~Favored of Two~ (Please don't call me Gezau. <3)
child of Set and Sekhmet
beloved of Ptah, Djehuty, and Heru-Wer
( they / them / theirs / themself )
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Offline Senuwierneheh

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Re: Liminal Netjeru
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2018, 08:03:02 am »
So well said, Gezausenu!

Yes, I see Set that way, and Ptah-Sokar-Wesir that way too.  "Elsewhere" and "Here", too.  Ptah seems almost alien, so Very ancient, and so very Aware.  Dua Set!  Dua Ptah-Sokar-Wesir!

Senebty, <3
Neheh...
Senuwierneheh (My Two, forever)
Sat Hethert-Sekhmet her Set, meryt Ptah-Sokar-Wesir, Djehuty, her Heru-Wer
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Offline Yinepuemsaes

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Re: Liminal Netjeru
« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2018, 07:13:09 pm »

I also think of Papa Set as being very liminal--as He appears to me, boundaries aren't really a thing for Him; He's transformative, a Wild Man; He represents things to me which there's no boundary against (or at least, nothing but self-created ones--and it pleases Him to tear those down).

I sense him this way too. 
Yinepuemsaes - "Yinepu is her protection"
Sat Yinepu
Meryt Bast

Offline Shefytbast

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Re: Liminal Netjeru
« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2018, 03:28:41 pm »
This is mainly UPG, but I see Wenut as liminal, a messenger moving in the twilight between the Seen world and the Duat. More traditionally, in ancient Kemet She was called upon in at least one birth spell to help the child come forth, so you have an in-between space right there.
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Offline TahekerutAset

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Re: Liminal Netjeru
« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2018, 01:34:00 pm »
Aset, Nebet Het, Nut and Hethert are liminal deities and psychopomps as they all  are the Ladies of the West/Afterlife/Amenti goddesses.  Aset and Nebet Het together help the sun rise and set which is a very liminal time. 

I'd also include Wepwawet and Yinepu as well for their liminal roles. 
senebty,

TahekerutAset "Aset's Jewel"
Sat Aset
Meryt Nebet Het her Wepwawet her Sekhmet-Mut her Ra

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Online Teritui

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Re: Liminal Netjeru
« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2018, 07:25:33 pm »
Ptah-Sokar-Wesir, and His Mysteries.

The Nun.
Teritui: I respect my Two Fathers
Daughter of: Ptah-Sokar-Wesir and Heru-wer
Beloved of: Sekhmet-Hethert and Set

 


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