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Author Topic: Wesir and water abstinence?  (Read 754 times)

Offline patriciab

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Wesir and water abstinence?
« on: September 09, 2020, 09:47:34 pm »
Em hotep! Hello everyone!
I've just heard about a very intriguing story and I would like to ask if this can be verified, or if this person is just very confused.
I heard about a girl who claimed that Wesir asked her not to drink water since April. I find this very strange.
Any thoughts on this?

Offline Bawysudjawi

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Re: Wesir and water abstinence?
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2020, 03:06:46 am »
I have never heard anything like that and it honestly sounds like she needs to practice discernment. I was going to say it may be a sort of humbling thing but that doesn't make much sense the more I think of it.
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Re: Wesir and water abstinence?
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2020, 06:12:28 am »
I have never heard anything like that and it sound potentially dangerous. Especially if they were not drinking water during increasingly hot summers. Dehydration is no joke.
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Offline Beck88

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Re: Wesir and water abstinence?
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2020, 07:16:16 am »
I agree, this sounds dangerous. I'm just a beginner but I can't see why a god would ask such a thing that could potentially put their devotees in legitimate danger. I think that this person should see a mental health professional to rule out hallucinations and definitely learn better discernment at the very least.
Just my two cents.

Offline Sedjfaiemitui

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Re: Wesir and water abstinence?
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2020, 09:36:08 am »
Yeah, that's not at all healthy, and the Gods don't ask us to intentionally hurt and/or kill ourselves.

Something's going on, but, I sincerely doubt that what's going on is Wesir telling that person to dehydrate themselves.
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Offline NebitBast

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Re: Wesir and water abstinence?
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2020, 04:43:08 pm »
Yeah... Major red flags for me.
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Offline Rayashi

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Re: Wesir and water abstinence?
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2020, 05:40:27 pm »
Definitely, do not abstain from water, no matter who or what tells you to, except a licensed Physician.


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Offline Yinepuemsaes

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Re: Wesir and water abstinence?
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2020, 07:59:57 pm »
If anyone or anything told me not to drink water, I would immediately suspect it didn't have my best interests at heart. Not every entity you meet on the astral is benevolent, you know.
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Offline patriciab

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Re: Wesir and water abstinence?
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2020, 09:59:00 pm »
If anyone or anything told me not to drink water, I would immediately suspect it didn't have my best interests at heart. Not every entity you meet on the astral is benevolent, you know.

Yes agreed. Thank you to everyone who clarified this for me! It really made no sense to me but I wanted to verify

Offline Shuwyt

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Re: Wesir and water abstinence?
« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2020, 06:51:14 am »
Yanno, I almost wonder if a third possibility isn't someone who just doesn't like water and feels like she needs an excuse to justify it (depending on if we're talking, "I was told not to drink water, specifically, but I drink other things," or if it's an umbrella for claiming not to intake liquid at all, I've heard some other strange things in that living-off-sunshine-and-moonbeams vein). Water always seems "off" to me no matter what the origin or temperature, but my sensory processing issues are just nuts, so there are a LOT of things on that same list. And I can't imagine ever having tried to use, "You know what? GOD," about something like that because it's so...weirdly specific and impossible to back up, especially with it being Kemetic/pagan/etc, but there were definitely points when I was younger and just wanted people off my back rather than arguing about stuff, that I'd slap something Biblical around, because that was the easiest way to manage that with the people in question.

(Or it's a, "Look how devoted I am, I'm living off sunshine and moonbeams thing," both of which are still a, "Yeah, but Wesir definitely didn't/wouldn't ask you for that," but yeah that was my first thought.)
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Offline patriciab

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Re: Wesir and water abstinence?
« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2020, 11:41:00 pm »
Yanno, I almost wonder if a third possibility isn't someone who just doesn't like water and feels like she needs an excuse to justify it (depending on if we're talking, "I was told not to drink water, specifically, but I drink other things," or if it's an umbrella for claiming not to intake liquid at all, I've heard some other strange things in that living-off-sunshine-and-moonbeams vein). Water always seems "off" to me no matter what the origin or temperature, but my sensory processing issues are just nuts, so there are a LOT of things on that same list. And I can't imagine ever having tried to use, "You know what? GOD," about something like that because it's so...weirdly specific and impossible to back up, especially with it being Kemetic/pagan/etc, but there were definitely points when I was younger and just wanted people off my back rather than arguing about stuff, that I'd slap something Biblical around, because that was the easiest way to manage that with the people in question.

(Or it's a, "Look how devoted I am, I'm living off sunshine and moonbeams thing," both of which are still a, "Yeah, but Wesir definitely didn't/wouldn't ask you for that," but yeah that was my first thought.)

The worst part is that this girl is presenting herself as a sort of mentor to teach paganism to others. I am not in the online chat that she is in, but someone told me about how self assured and rude she is to people who are beginning to explore this path. And then they told me that she claims that Osiris is her spirit guide, who demands her to do several strange things. It might be an entity pretending to be Wesir, indeed... worrisome.

Offline Tahai

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Re: Wesir and water abstinence?
« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2020, 08:50:19 pm »
Dry Fasting is a thing.  Medical research is starting to come in regarding its benefits.  Dry Fasting for more than 14 hours at time is not advised.  Dry Fasting for longer periods without medical supervision is a BIG NO NO.  Dry fasting for more than a few days, even with medical supervision, is extremely harmful.


There is no humanly possible way this girl has Dry Fasted since April, which leads me to believe she is drinking something, and just avoiding plain water.  Any way you look at it, these are dangerous and irresponsible words she is spewing.  Someone needs to call her out before a gullible person falls for her 'advice' and ends up in a hospital.
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Offline rev. ubenet

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Re: Wesir and water abstinence?
« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2020, 03:03:22 am »
i would be interested to see actual medical research on dry fasting, do you have any links?


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Offline patriciab

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Re: Wesir and water abstinence?
« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2020, 11:02:22 am »
Dry Fasting is a thing.  Medical research is starting to come in regarding its benefits.  Dry Fasting for more than 14 hours at time is not advised.  Dry Fasting for longer periods without medical supervision is a BIG NO NO.  Dry fasting for more than a few days, even with medical supervision, is extremely harmful.


There is no humanly possible way this girl has Dry Fasted since April, which leads me to believe she is drinking something, and just avoiding plain water.  Any way you look at it, these are dangerous and irresponsible words she is spewing.  Someone needs to call her out before a gullible person falls for her 'advice' and ends up in a hospital.

She has also said that this entity demands expensive offerings, physically harms her when she doesn't follow its demands, makes her nails fall, sends scorpions to bite her, asks for expensive drinks and gold, and has a dense energy. Definitely not the Netjeru that I know. This is very serious. I tried to warn her, but she called me a "hater". Oh well.

Offline Rev. Raheri

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Re: Wesir and water abstinence?
« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2020, 09:02:13 am »
Dry Fasting is a thing.  Medical research is starting to come in regarding its benefits.  Dry Fasting for more than 14 hours at time is not advised.  Dry Fasting for longer periods without medical supervision is a BIG NO NO.  Dry fasting for more than a few days, even with medical supervision, is extremely harmful.


There is no humanly possible way this girl has Dry Fasted since April, which leads me to believe she is drinking something, and just avoiding plain water.  Any way you look at it, these are dangerous and irresponsible words she is spewing.  Someone needs to call her out before a gullible person falls for her 'advice' and ends up in a hospital.

Dry fasting is a fad-weight loss system being plugged by the "wellness" industry. While there is a connection between dry fasting and religion (Ramadan in Islam, fast days in Judaism), any legitimate healthcare provider would reject it has health benefits. These fastings are always from sunrise and sunset with a few exceptions. Any such benefits are along the line of snake oil salesmen of yesterday.

If a spirit or god is telling you to do something that will harm yourself, I would suggest you do the same thing you would do with a person - Tell them were to go and find a new friend. This is an example of the hidden dangers of charlatans in the new age industry.
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