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Author Topic: Epithets of the Names  (Read 247310 times)

Offline Taysatwesir

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Re: Epithets of the Names
« Reply #30 on: February 19, 2009, 04:31:17 am »
I just remembered more Ma'ahes epithets. :)

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Another Horus-Mahes, Har-Mihos, represented as Horus with the lion's head, is engraved on an agate amulet from Sakkare, with a Greek inscription containing a prayer to the lion-gate of Leontopolis who is referred to as "flashing and thundering god, Lord of darkness and of the winds, Mios, Mios, Har-Mios, Osiris-Mios, Phre . . . the great god, light, fire and flame" – a description, as Bonnet observed, befitting the character of a lion-god.

Apedemak, Lion God of Meroe: A Study in Egyptian-Meroitic Syncretism by L.V. Zabkar
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 pm by TaysatWesir »
Taysatwesir
This daughter of Wesir
sat Wesir as Ptah-Sokar-Wesir
meryt Mut, Ma'ahes, Bast, and Hethert-Sekhmet

Re: Epithets of the Names
« Reply #31 on: February 19, 2009, 04:58:14 pm »
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I also written an extensive essay on Ma'ahes if your interested in reading. :)


I can email the essay but I rather upload it somewhere so more people can read it.


Hmm. You could possibly upload it to a site like Sendspace and post the link here? Unless you're looking for a web site to post it on. A free and easy option may be Google's new Sites (basically sites.google.com). Its what I'm using my make my own new website. Its a what you see is what you get website maker. *shrugs*

If you do want to e-mail it to me, my e-mail should be in my profile. :)
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« Reply #32 on: February 19, 2009, 07:17:52 pm »
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« Last Edit: May 07, 2018, 11:15:26 pm by Naisenu »

Re: Epithets of the Names
« Reply #33 on: February 19, 2009, 07:27:04 pm »
I don't think horses are really the enemies are Egypt just because they are non-indigenous. I mean yeah they came later on in the history of Egypt but they came into Egypt around 1700 to 1550 BCE, which is nothing to sneeze at. :D This web page (link link) has a few artifacts dealing with horses.

I am confused as to what the Nile Horse is though. Hmm. A quick Google search throws up nothing. :\\
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Offline Tanebet

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Re: Epithets of the Names
« Reply #34 on: February 19, 2009, 09:50:52 pm »
Nile Horse is probably a bad babelfish translation.
The German word Nilpferd would literally translate to Nile Horse but it is in fact a hippopotamus
Tanebetheru "Heru's Lordship"
Sat Heru Sa Aset her Nisut (AUS), Meryt Ra-Heru-akhety her Heru-Behedety
Heri-Sesheta Heru-Sa-Aset

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Re: Epithets of the Names
« Reply #35 on: February 19, 2009, 09:56:05 pm »
Quote from: Tanebet
Nile Horse is probably a bad babelfish translation.
The German word Nilpferd would literally translate to Nile Horse but it is in fact a hippopotamus


Wow. That actually makes a heck of a lot of sense.

Of course now whenever I see a hippo I am going to think "nile horse". Lol!
“God didn’t promise days without pain, laughter without sorrow, sun without rain, but He did promise strength for the day, comfort for the tears, and light for the way.”

Re: Epithets of the Names
« Reply #36 on: February 20, 2009, 03:04:36 am »
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Amun Yinepu Amun-Ra Wesir Aset Wepwawet Atum Wadjet Bast(-Mut) Tefnut Bes Taweret Djehuty Sokar(-Wesir) Geb Sobek Heru-sa-Aset Shu Heru-wer Seshat Hethert(-Mut) Serqet Khepera Sekhmet(-Mut) Khonsu Ra-Heruakhety Maahes Ra Ma'at Ptah(-Sokar & -Sokar-Wesir) Mafdet Nut Min Nit Montu Nefertem Mut Nebthet


::clears throat and points at the list::  ahem, you seem to have left out Set. . . .  :grin:
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Ikemwy "The Double Shielded"
Sat Set her Bast,
Meryt Sekhmet-HetHert her Heru-Wer

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Offline Taysatwesir

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Re: Epithets of the Names
« Reply #37 on: February 20, 2009, 08:36:36 pm »
Quote from: Naisenu
My comments in red.
"He who lives off the blood of Rechit" [color:#FF0000]Who/what is Rechit?[/color]
"He who drives off Set" [color:#FF0000]What mythology does he have with Set?[/color]
"Who drives his Gabelstoc into the back of his enemy" [color:#FF0000]What's a Gabelstoc?[/color]


I have no idea who is Rechit or what's a Gabelstoc. I wish I knew the mythology between Set & Ma'ahes.
Taysatwesir
This daughter of Wesir
sat Wesir as Ptah-Sokar-Wesir
meryt Mut, Ma'ahes, Bast, and Hethert-Sekhmet

Offline Taysatwesir

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Re: Epithets of the Names
« Reply #38 on: February 20, 2009, 08:39:05 pm »
Quote from: Tanebet
Nile Horse is probably a bad babelfish translation.
The German word Nilpferd would literally translate to Nile Horse but it is in fact a hippopotamus


Ma'en do you want the url for the page? I want to know how many epithets were misinterputed.
Taysatwesir
This daughter of Wesir
sat Wesir as Ptah-Sokar-Wesir
meryt Mut, Ma'ahes, Bast, and Hethert-Sekhmet

Offline Taysatwesir

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Re: Epithets of the Names
« Reply #39 on: February 20, 2009, 08:53:11 pm »
I asked Hemet about the Epithets let's see what she says. :)
Taysatwesir
This daughter of Wesir
sat Wesir as Ptah-Sokar-Wesir
meryt Mut, Ma'ahes, Bast, and Hethert-Sekhmet

Re: Epithets of the Names
« Reply #40 on: February 20, 2009, 10:25:58 pm »
Quote from: TaysatWesir
Quote from: Naisenu
My comments in red.
"He who lives off the blood of Rechit" [color:#FF0000]Who/what is Rechit?[/color]
"He who drives off Set" [color:#FF0000]What mythology does he have with Set?[/color]
"Who drives his Gabelstoc into the back of his enemy" [color:#FF0000]What's a Gabelstoc?[/color]


I have no idea who is Rechit or what's a Gabelstoc. I wish I knew the mythology between Set & Ma'ahes.


Do you have the original German for these? Just curious. :)
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Offline Taysatwesir

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Re: Epithets of the Names
« Reply #41 on: February 21, 2009, 06:13:48 am »
Yes I do have it, you can read the page online Lexikon der ägyptischen Götter und Götterbezeichnungen.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 pm by TaysatWesir »
Taysatwesir
This daughter of Wesir
sat Wesir as Ptah-Sokar-Wesir
meryt Mut, Ma'ahes, Bast, and Hethert-Sekhmet

Offline Tanebet

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Re: Epithets of the Names
« Reply #42 on: February 21, 2009, 09:49:58 am »
Quote from: TaysatWesir


I have no idea who is Rechit or what's a Gabelstoc. I wish I knew the mythology between Set & Ma'ahes.


I suppose the word is Gabelstock, which suggests that is is some kind of stick which at the end locks like a fork, so it is some kind of harpoon  
« Last Edit: February 21, 2009, 09:50:28 am by Tanebet »
Tanebetheru "Heru's Lordship"
Sat Heru Sa Aset her Nisut (AUS), Meryt Ra-Heru-akhety her Heru-Behedety
Heri-Sesheta Heru-Sa-Aset

This is what I was born to: to live, to love, to know, to change and embrace the infinite.
Normandi Ellis: "Awakening Osiris"

Offline Taysatwesir

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Re: Epithets of the Names
« Reply #43 on: February 21, 2009, 04:09:57 pm »
Hemet's answer to the questions is that Ma'ahes is affiliated with Heru-sa-Aset, which should explain all you need to know about why He'd be working against Set at certain times. Rechit here is probably the German spelling of "rekhyt," or "human beings." Gabelstoc is also a German word, or a badly-spelled one, anyway, meaning "fork" or "fork-shaped weapon," here probably some sort of a spear or pitchfork (multiple-tined spear). I had the epithets translated for me by a friend of a friend. Now I'm curious to see if any of the Ptah-Sokar-Wesir epithets have mistakes.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 pm by TaysatWesir »
Taysatwesir
This daughter of Wesir
sat Wesir as Ptah-Sokar-Wesir
meryt Mut, Ma'ahes, Bast, and Hethert-Sekhmet

Offline Taysatwesir

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Re: Epithets of the Names
« Reply #44 on: February 21, 2009, 04:23:40 pm »
Ptah-Sokar-Wesir Epithets from Lexikon der ägyptischen Götter und Götterbezeichnungen

A Cosmos

1. Heaven/Horizon:
“Lord of the Heavens“

3. Moon
“Who is in His Disk”

7. Earth/World:
“Who creates the Earth”

8. Underworld:
“Lord of the Underworld”
“Who dwells in the midst of the Underworld”
“Ruler/Head of the Underworld”

B Topography

1. Nomes:
“Who dwells in the midst of Abydos”

2. Names of places
“The Great One in Busiris”
“Lord of Abydos”
“Lord of Memphis”
“Lord of Busiris”
“The Great God who dwells/is in Memphis”
“Who dwells in the midst of Abydos”
“Who dwells in the midst of the hills of Djeme”
“Who dwells in the midst of Achmim”
“Who dwells in the midst of Memphis”
“Who dwells in the midst of Hm3g (ON unknown location)”
“Who dwells in the midst of Tell el-Balamun”
“Principal of Abydos”
“Principal of Memphis”
“Principal of Memphis”
“Sokar in the City of the Female Falcon”
“Sokar in (the City of the) two Female Falcons (ON unknown location”)
“Sokar in Pkr (ON near Abydos)”
“Sokar in the Big City (= Tanis)”
“Sokar in Rwt-Ist (ON near Abusir?)”
“Sokar in Assiut”
“Sokar in Srwt (ON unknown location)”
“Sokar in the Land of Sokar (ON near Atfih)”
“Bull in Thinis”

3. Countries/Lands, Regions and names of People:
“Whose Bas are great among those who are in (actually: on) both Lands”
“Lord of the two Sanctuaries”
“Lord of the two Lands”
“Who protects the two Lands”

4. Sanctuaries
“Ptah in all of His Temples”
“Lord of the Schetit (Taysat: Shetit????) Sanctuary”
“The Great God, the Lord of [all] which is located in the House of the Underworld”
Taysat: Literally: The Unharmed Awakener in the House (?) of the Gods” suggestion:
“He who awakes unharmed in the House (?) of the Gods”
“Who dwells in the midst of the House of Ramses III in the Domain of Amun (Medinet-Habu)”
“Who dwells in the midst of the House of Ramses III that is linked with Eternity, located in the Domain of Amun (Medinet-Habu)”
“Who dwells in the midst of the Temple of Sethos I (Temple of Abydos)”
“Who is in the midst of the House of the hnw Barge”
“Who is in the midst of the Schetit”
“Ruler of the Schetit Sanctuary”
“Ruler of the Schetit Sanctuary”
“Principal of the Gold House”
“Principal of the House of the ksnty Minerals (=ochre?)”
“Principal of the God Tent of the craftsmen”
“Principal of the tnnt Sanctuary”
“Sokar in the Middle Hall”
“Sokar within the Temple”
“Sokar in the Schetit Sanctuary”
“Sokar in the tnnt Sanctuary”

6. Points of the compass
“Lord of the West”
“Whose roaring permeates the Western Mountains”
“Who is in the midst of the West”
“Lord of the West”
“Lord of the Beautiful West”

7. Necropolis
“Lord of Resetau”
“Lord of the Hallowed Land”
“Lord of the Hallowed Land”
“Who is in the midst of Rosetau”
“Principal of Rosetau”
“Principal of the Delimited Land (= Necropolis)”
“Sokar in Rosetau”
“Sokar in His place in Rosetau”

8. Others:
“Lord of the Hills”
“Lord of the Desert”
“Lord of the Sand”
“Who is within the Hill”
“Who is above (his) Sand”
“Sokar in all of the places where His Ka desires to be”

C. Fauna/Flora

1. Animals
“Bull in Thinis”

E. Development

1. Ancient Deity:
“The Primeval One”

F. Life/Death:

1. Span of Life:
“He who lives eternally”

2. Regeneration/Reincarnation:
“The Unharmed Awakener in the House (?) of the Gods”

H. Physical Attributes:

1. Personal Strength:
“He with the powerful heart”

2. Speed/Dexterity:
“The Swift One/The Runner of the Gods”
5. Bodily features and body parts:
“Lord of the statures (or births?)”
“He with the high horns”

L Persons elements (Ba, Ka et cetera):

“Whose Bas are great among those who are in (actually: on) both Lands”
“The Living Ba”
“The Secret Ba”

M. As acting Deity:

4. As protective Deity:
“Who protects the two Lands”

O. Sovereignty

1. Sovereign Titles:
“King of the nhh Time”
“Lord of the West”
“Lord of the Beautiful West”
“Lord of the Living in Eternity”
“Ruler of the Nineness”
“Lord of Eternity”

7. Crowns:
“Lord of the Atef Crown”
“He who appears with the great Atef Crown”
“He who appears with the Double Crown”

8 Throne:
“He who is on the Great Throne”

R. Social/material rank

2. As prestigious/respected Deity:
“The Great God”
“The Noble God of the Nineness”

5. As feared/violent Deity:
“Whose roaring permeates the Western Mountains”

T. Temples and cult:

4. Barges and other boats:
“Principal of the Evening Barge”

5. Sacred Objects:
“Djed Pillar of the Gods”

U. Cults of the Dead:

2. Burial, grave and sarcophagus:
“Lord of the Burial”
“Who dwells/is in the midst of the grave”

V. In relation to food:
“Lord of the Fayre/Food/Dishes”

W. In combination with terms of time (also times of the day):
“Who creates the dt Eternity”
“Who lives eternally”
“Lord of Eternity”
“King of the Nhh Time”
“Lord of the living in all eternity”
“Who wanders through the dt Time”

X Identification with other Deities:
“Ptah-Osiris”
“Ptah in all of the places where His Ka desires to be”
“Ptah in all of His Temples”
“Ptah-Sokar-Osiris”
“Principal of the West”
“Sokar in the City of the Female Falcon”
“Sokar in (the City of the) two Female Falcons (ON unknown location)”
“Sokar in all of the places where His Ka desires to be”
“Sokar in Pkr (ON near Abydos)”
“Sokar in the Big City (= Tanis)”
“Sokar in Rosetau”
“Sokar in Rwt-Ist (ON near Abusir?)”
“Sokar in the Middle Hall”
“Sokar within the Temple”
“Sokar in His place in Rosetau”
“Sokar in Assiut”
“Sokar in Srwt (ON unknown location)”
“Sokar in the Schetit Sanctuary”
“Sokar in the Land of Sokar (ON near Atfih)”
“Sokar in the tnnt Sanctuary”

I left the translator's questions marked by a parathesis and/or a question mark.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 pm by TaysatWesir »
Taysatwesir
This daughter of Wesir
sat Wesir as Ptah-Sokar-Wesir
meryt Mut, Ma'ahes, Bast, and Hethert-Sekhmet

 


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