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Cirrus:
I read the latest entry regarding the "Rite of Parent Divination" and felt that it was highly applicable to me, and I'm not sure how happy I should be about that.  

It came to me in this way: I agreed with the Nisut's point that having the individual choose the Name they associate with themselves, puts the power in the hands of the individual.  As if I (for example) were browsing through a lineup in a store for just the right god to go with my wallpaper.  

I doubt it's so callous for anyone who takes this seriously, but I think we all have some idea of how fickle or muddled we, as flawed human beings, can be.  Our earthly preferences can be affected by so much, and by so little.  Our favorite animal, a cool picture we saw, a facet of the god's personality that we want to identify with, etc.  More then half the time we aren't even aware of the factors that influence us, or we rationalize them away without really understanding.  
It's not malicious, it's just the nature of people, of humans, trying to understand ourselves, and how our thoughts work (I'm reminded of one of my favorite quote from Mon Oncle D'amerique An individual's personality "...is built upon a grab-bag of value-judgments, personal prejudices and platitudes...remove a single stone from this edifice and it all crumbles, resulting in anguish")  

Even as I was reading, I nodded my head in agreement.  
But thinking of this brought another thought into my head: what if I ever take part in the RPD myself and find that neither Yinepu or Seth were related to me?  

I was honestly somewhat frightened.  They are the two who I feel the most strongly attracted to.  And I suddenly had to question how loyal I would still be if I were told that Hethert, or Bast, or a more traditionally "obscure" Name was revealed to me.  

It was a moment of very pointed self-invasion.  I felt somewhat ashamed, as if I had revealed a betrayal within myself (that may be part of the "anguish" that Professor Laborit meant in his quote).  

Overall, I feel that such introspection is what keeps us honest with ourselves, and while it's sometimes a kick-in-the-butt to our egos and our feelings of stability, it might help us better understand Ma'at and how it's not always a self-guided journey.

Cirrus

Djehutyendy:
Em hotep, Cirrus


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Even as I was reading, I nodded my head in agreement.  
But thinking of this brought another thought into my head: what if I ever take part in the RPD myself and find that neither Yinepu or Seth were related to me?  

I was honestly somewhat frightened.  They are the two who I feel the most strongly attracted to.  And I suddenly had to question how loyal I would still be if I were told that Hethert, or Bast, or a more traditionally "obscure" Name was revealed to me.  
 
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I just want to say that I understand your fear. I waited over a year before I had my RPD, and part of the reason was for what you have expressed in this post. I just want to say that no matter what your line-up is, it does not mean that you cannot have a relationship with another Name.

If Yinepu or Set were not related to you, I do not think that should weaken your relationship with Them. They are a part of your life for a reason (and only you can find what that reason is), and it doesn't matter if They helped make you or not. However, if you have such a strong relationship with Them and feel that They should be in your line-up somewhere, there is a great chance They are.

This is just my 2 cents. But everyone is different.

After I was divined, I was very content with Who showed up (Daughter of Djehuty and Beloved of Hethert), and I tried to accept that Geb didn't show up. I kept just saying that I just had a close relationship with Him. But after only a few months, I knew this was wrong (mainly by Geb telling me), so I asked Hemet to do another divination for me. It turned out He was a Beloved :) Then after this, I got thinking about the whole process of "obtaining a new beloved" and I learned that others have felt that a certain Name should be "related" to them, but that Name really is not. I don't know a whole lot on this, just that I know that quite a few people think a particular Name should be in their line-up, but is not. I do not know any examples that I could explain here (hopefully someone will chime in and add to this).

Ok, so I'm definitely rambling. I hoped this helped even a little. I have more to ramble about but I will stop here. Believe me, your fears are not uncommon among the people in this faith. I have spoken with many people who have said "If X-Name does not show up in my line-up, I will not become a Shemsu." And to be honest, all those I have spoken to about this are Shemsu.

Senebty
Endy

Cirrus:
Thank you Djehutyendy for the comfort.  

It's an often overlooked truism, but at times it really is supportive to know that I'm not alone in my fears.  

While fear may now be too strong a word, the uncertainty of not knowing the outcome, and even more biting, not knowing myself, leaves plenty of room for second-guessing and hesitation.  

I try and look at these kind of things as the rumblings of instability as the foundation sits; and after the shift, the structure is more secure because of it.
 
I've only just started looking into this faith seriously and it's bound to happen that there will be some cataracts between the smooth water.  

So far the solidarity of this community, and the openness with which you share with one another is already doing a lot to help me overcome my trepidations, and I hope that as I have more of these "introspective moments" and begin to understand myself better, I can grow into a better person because of them, and be a better member of the community (if that's my future here).  

Cirrus

Maainakhtsen:

--- Quote ---
Even as I was reading, I nodded my head in agreement.
But thinking of this brought another thought into my head: what if I ever take part in the RPD myself and find that neither Yinepu or Seth were related to me?
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Em Hotep Cirrus,

I definitely understand your concerns. Every divined remetj has been there. I would say that as long as you don't take this evaluation as some kind of judgement, you should be fine.

There are no losers in the RPD regardless of prior relationships because all of our Gods are awesome, multilayered beings with different kinds of insight and support to share with us. So if you feel prompted to receive the RPD and happen to get a surprise; you aren't losing a God, you're gaining one (or more).

I think that in many cases, in addition to us having chosen our Gods pre-RPD, They may actually have chosen us and we have chosen Them back.

Another way to look at the RPD, is that it highlights whether The Gods we already venerate have chosen us as children, as beloveds or as something else.

Tawaisenu:
Ma'ai, what you last said is interesting, "Another way to look at the RPD is that it highlights whether the Gods we already venerate have chosen us as children, as beloveds or as something else."

I have heard people talk about their RPD's, saying that that was when their Gods "claimed" them....I am slightly confused by this, because aren't our Parent gods with us at least, our whole lives? Since They create our ba? I can understand Beloveds claiming someone, because They help shape our personality in this life.

I like what you said, but I am a little confused by the "choosing" part of it. :)

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